Driving a Car on a Straight Road: Analyzing Forces

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I am building a project,where you drive a car on a straight road.

The car has 3 kinds of forces:
1)Torque of engine in the wheels
2)Friction on the tyres
3)Force due to air resistance

If a car accelerating,and is front wheel drive,then the 2 front wheels have these forces:

<-------(Engine Torque)-------O------(Static friction)-------------->

and the rear wheels

<-------(Rolling friction)-------O


so car has these forces:

<---(Engine torque,rolling friction,air resistance force)--(CAR)--(Static friction force)---->

So,Whats the total force?

F=engine_torque-air_resistance-rolling_friction-static_friction ?

I read that static friction causes movement...so static friction is equal to engine torque?I am comfused.
 
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impel123 said:
I am building a project,where you drive a car on a straight road.

The car has 3 kinds of forces:
1)Torque of engine in the wheels
2)Friction on the tyres
3)Force due to air resistance

If a car accelerating,and is front wheel drive,then the 2 front wheels have these forces:

<-------(Engine Torque)-------O------(Static friction)-------------->

and the rear wheels

<-------(Rolling friction)-------O


so car has these forces:

<---(Engine torque,rolling friction,air resistance force)--(CAR)--(Static friction force)---->

So,Whats the total force?

F=engine_torque-air_resistance-rolling_friction-static_friction ?

I read that static friction causes movement...so static friction is equal to engine torque?I am comfused.

I think it would make the problem more clear if you think of engine torque and static friction being in the same direction.

<---(Engine torque ~ Static friction force)--(CAR)--(rolling friction, air resistance)---->
 
so,if engine torque on front wheels<=static friction then

F_total=Engine_torque-air_resistance-rolling_friction_in_rear_wheels

else ,if engine torque on front wheels>static friction then

F_total=Kinetik_friction_force_in_front_wheels-air_resistance-rolling_friction_in_rear_wheels


When car speed=0,what is the minimum engine torque to start the car to move?

F_minumum=rolling_resistance_rear_wheels+x
where x is friction resistance on the front wheels.

What is the x?rolling friction again?
 
impel123 said:
so,if engine torque on front wheels<=static friction then

F_total=Engine_torque-air_resistance-rolling_friction_in_rear_wheels
It might also be a good idea to stop referring to the force as static friction.
Although technically correct, it's a bit confusing, as evidenced by your following statement:
else ,if engine torque on front wheels>static friction then
If the torque exceeds the static friction then you no longer have static friction, ie. your wheels will spin and you will have kinetic friction.
F_total=Kinetik_friction_force_in_front_wheels-air_resistance-rolling_friction_in_rear_wheels

When car speed=0,what is the minimum engine torque to start the car to move?
It would be equal to the force required to move the car.
F_minumum=rolling_resistance_rear_wheels+x
where x is friction resistance on the front wheels.

What is the x?rolling friction again?
Rolling friction is the resistance of a wheel being rolled over a surface.
 
I can't understand what is the minimun engine torque required to move the car,if initialy car speed=0..there is no resistance?

when car speed is >0 then the rear wheels have rolling friction,and the front wheels static friction so

if speed>0 then
Ftotal=Engine_torque-air_resistance-rolling_friction_rear_wheels

else is speed =0 then
Ftotal=Engine_torque

Is this right?
 
impel123 said:
I can't understand what is the minimun engine torque required to move the car,if initialy car speed=0..there is no resistance?
There is always resistance.
when car speed is >0 then the rear wheels have rolling friction,and the front wheels static friction so
The front wheels also have rolling friction.
if speed>0 then
Ftotal=Engine_torque-air_resistance-rolling_friction_rear_wheels
Basically. Yes.
else is speed =0 then
Ftotal=Engine_torque

Is this right?
I do not understand the question.
 
then,if and front wheels and rear wheels have rolling resistance,when speed>0

Ftotal=Engine_torque-air_resistance-front_wheels_rolling_resistance-rear_wheels_rolling_resistance


if speed=0,which is the minimum engine torque required to start the car to move?

Why don't you answer my questions?

I need to know which are the forces in the car when speed>0 and which is the minimun
engine torque required to move the car if speed=0.

There are 4 kinds of forces:
1)engine torque
2)rear_wheels rolling resistance
3)front wheels rolling resistance
4)air resistance

Give me an answer please...