Dynamics of electron in crystal lattice

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The discussion revolves around the equations governing the motion of electrons in a crystal lattice when subjected to electric and magnetic forces. Participants explore the derivation and validity of these equations, particularly in the context of solid state physics.

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  • One participant questions the correctness of the equation for electron motion in a crystal lattice under magnetic force, proposing a modification of the electric force equation to include magnetic effects.
  • Another participant references a rigorous proof from Ashcroft and Mermin regarding the expectation value of the velocity operator being equal to the gradient of energy with respect to quasimomentum.
  • A different participant suggests that the equation can be derived from the Lorentz force equation and Ehrenfest's theorem, noting a distinction between momentum and quasimomentum.
  • One participant highlights that Ashcroft and Mermin provide extensive discussion and references on the topic, implying that further literature may clarify the equations in question.

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Participants express differing views on the derivation and validity of the equations related to electron motion in a crystal lattice. No consensus is reached regarding the correctness of the proposed equations or their derivations.

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The discussion includes references to specific textbooks and literature, indicating that the proofs and derivations may depend on the definitions and assumptions presented in those sources. There is also a noted distinction between momentum and quasimomentum that remains unresolved.

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I'm not sure what is the correct equation for motion of electron in a crystal
lattice under the influence of magnetic force. On may easily proof that for
electric force the following equation holds (the proof might be found in
http://ajp.aapt.org/resource/1/ajpias/v54/i2/p177_s1" ):
[tex] \hbar \frac{d}{d t} \langle T \rangle = -e E[/tex]
(T - lattice translation opertor; its eigenvalues are called usually quasimomentum;
here we have average value). Straightforward modification of above equation
which incorporate magnetic force would be (E(k) means energy):
[tex] \hbar \frac{d}{d t} \langle T \rangle = -e (\vec{E} + \frac{1}{\hbar}\nabla_{\vec{k}}E(k)\times \vec{B})[/tex]
And this equation is stated by most textbooks concering solid state physics (however
without proof or with proof which is not rigorous). Does anyone know a good proof
of these equation?
 
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If you look in appendix E of Ashcroft and Mermin, there is a rigorous proof that the expectation value of the velocity operator is [tex]\nabla_k E(k)[/tex]. Since the equation you wrote is basically the Lorentz force equation, I suspect you could derive it from that and Ehrenfest's theorem.
 
Using Ehrenfest theorem one would obtain the following formula
[tex] \hbar \frac{d}{d t} \langle p\rangle = -e (\vec{E} + \frac{1}{\hbar}\nabla_{\vec{k}}E(k)\times \vec{B})[/tex]
where p is momentum of electron and it is different from quasimomentum
which is usually denoted by k. Most textbooks gives this formula with k
not p and this is why I'm wondering why it's true.
 
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Ashcroft and Mermin discuss this topic quite at length and, more importantly, give many links to relevant literature.
 

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