E&M and beyond books for very mathematically adept

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The discussion revolves around recommendations for textbooks on Electricity and Magnetism (E&M) that cater to individuals with strong mathematical capabilities. Participants explore various texts that balance physical explanations with mathematical rigor, particularly focusing on the use of calculus.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses dissatisfaction with their current E&M textbook for being overly simplistic and not utilizing integrals or derivatives, seeking a more mathematically rigorous approach.
  • Another participant recommends "A Student's Guide to Maxwell's Equations," highlighting its inclusion of both integral and differential forms of Maxwell's equations and its accessibility for those familiar with Calculus III.
  • Another suggestion is "The Feynman Lectures vol. 2," noted for its physical explanations of mathematical concepts.
  • One participant advocates for Purcell's textbook as a suitable choice.
  • J.D. Jackson's book on classical electrodynamics is mentioned as a good option, though one participant cautions that transitioning directly from multivariable calculus to Jackson might be challenging.

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Participants present multiple recommendations for textbooks, indicating a variety of opinions on suitable materials. There is no consensus on a single best choice, and some participants express caution regarding the appropriateness of certain texts for the original poster's background.

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Some participants note the varying levels of mathematical rigor in the suggested texts and the potential challenges in transitioning from basic calculus to more advanced topics in electrodynamics.

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I'm looking for a Electricity and Magnetism (and beyond if possible) textbook that suits my capabilities better. I just read "Electric flux is proportional to the amount of electric field lines penetrating some surface" in my current textbook. I find that this is for the mathematical incapable. It tends to avoid any usage of integrals or derivatives.

I took Multivariable Calculus this past semester and did phenomenal. I'm extraordinarily good at understanding concepts and applying mathematics to describe the concept: ie what Calculus is all about. But that's not to say I'm good at math. I'm terrible with abstract math because I tend to approach everything by trying to understand the reality first and then letting the numbers fall into place.

So, back story aside; I'm looking for opinions about a textbook that is for the much more mathematically capable, but not one that says "flux is F dot dr" and leaves it as an abstraction. I guess a book that vividly explains the concept physically and then describes how it works with calculus without holding back in fear of offending the integral-challenged.

Any opinions?

Thanks!
 
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For E&M A Student's Guide to Maxwell's Equations https://www.amazon.com/dp/0521701473/?tag=pfamazon01-20 has both the integral and differential forms of the 4 Maxwell equations as well as explains why there is a dot product used in certain formulas as well as other del operators. It is at a slightly higher level than what most probably learn in Calc III, but it is very accessible to those who have taken it. The only thing it adds to a Calc III class is that it take surface integrals in spherical and cylindrical coordinates. It is a very small at about 130 pages of material, but it is far denser than most books you have probably seen and will take you a bit longer per page than normal, but it should be what you are looking for. And it's cheap too!
 
The Feynman Lectures vol. 2. He explains the math in a physical fashion.

But there are many good undergraduate E&M texts that will also fit the bill. Search this forum for recommendations.
 
Purcell is the way to go.
 
J.D. Jackson wrote a good book on classical electrodynamics. He uses pretty decent mathematics, not too much wording.
 
dextercioby said:
J.D. Jackson wrote a good book on classical electrodynamics. He uses pretty decent mathematics, not too much wording.

Going directly from multivariable calculus to Jackson might be a bit of a stretch for the OP. I suppose it wouldn't hurt to check it out at the library.
 

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