Earthing a Conductor: I Have Two Spheres

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The discussion revolves around the behavior of charged spheres when connected to the Earth via a conducting wire, specifically focusing on the movement of electrons and the implications of charge neutrality. The scope includes conceptual explanations and technical reasoning related to electrostatics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that connecting a negatively charged sphere to the Earth allows free electrons to flow to the Earth, while a positively charged sphere attracts electrons from the Earth to neutralize its charge.
  • Another participant argues that not all surplus electrons will flow to the Earth, as the flow will cease when charge is balanced between the Earth and the conductor.
  • It is proposed that a potential difference exists between the sphere and the Earth, which drives the movement of electrons towards the positively charged sphere.
  • A participant questions why positive charge does not flow from the sphere to the Earth, noting that positive charges are generally not mobile compared to electrons.
  • There is a discussion about the nature of positive charges, with one participant clarifying that protons in the nucleus are immobile, while electrons can move more freely.
  • Another participant emphasizes that moving electrons away from an object is equivalent to adding positive charge to that object.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the movement of charge, particularly regarding the mobility of positive charges and the conditions under which electrons flow. The discussion remains unresolved, with multiple competing explanations presented.

Contextual Notes

There are assumptions about the nature of charge distribution and the role of potential difference that are not fully explored. The discussion does not clarify the exact conditions under which charge movement occurs.

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Readers interested in electrostatics, charge behavior, and the principles of electricity may find this discussion relevant.

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I have two sphere.

1) one with free electron, if i connected sphere with the Earth by conducting wire all the free electron will flow to the earth.

2) one with positive charge, if i connected sphere with the Earth by conducting wire then the electron from the Earth will flow to the sphere and neutralize the positive charge


Why does this happen ? what this the reason behind this?
 
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The voltage difference is equivalent to a force ... which moves the excess charge from one reservoir to the other.
 
Hardik Batra said:
I have two sphere.

1) one with free electron, if i connected sphere with the Earth by conducting wire all the free electron will flow to the earth.

2) one with positive charge, if i connected sphere with the Earth by conducting wire then the electron from the Earth will flow to the sphere and neutralize the positive charge


Why does this happen ? what this the reason behind this?

Not 'all' the surplus electrons will flow to the Earth. The flow will stop when the charge is shared appropriately between Earth and the conductor.
The same thing will apply to the positively charged conductor.
In both cases there will be a net imbalance of + and - charges unless the two spheres have equal and opposite charges.
 
UltrafastPED said:
The voltage difference is equivalent to a force ... which moves the excess charge from one reservoir to the other.

In first condition,
the first sphere has excess of electron that will flow to the ground.

but happens in the second case.

Why the electron will flow from Earth to the sphere.
 
Hardik Batra said:
but happens in the second case.

Why the electron will flow from Earth to the sphere.

Because a potential difference (voltage) exists between the sphere and the Earth. The electrons in the ground are attracted to the positive charge of the sphere and move towards it until the voltage between the ground and the sphere is zero.
 
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Drakkith said:
Because a potential difference (voltage) exists between the sphere and the Earth. The electrons in the ground are attracted to the positive charge of the sphere and move towards it until the voltage between the ground and the sphere is zero.

Earth has infinite number of free electron.
And it has greater attraction force on positively charge sphere.
then why the positive charge will not go from sphere to earth.?
 
Have a think about where the +ve charges are in an atom.
 
Hardik Batra said:
Earth has infinite number of free electron.
And it has greater attraction force on positively charge sphere.
then why the positive charge will not go from sphere to earth.?

Because most positive charges are not mobile. It is always much easier to move electrons.
 
UltrafastPED said:
Because most positive charges are not mobile. It is always much easier to move electrons.

But moving electrons Away from an object is totally the equivalent of adding Positive charge.
 
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Hardik Batra said:
Earth has infinite number of free electron.
And it has greater attraction force on positively charge sphere.
then why the positive charge will not go from sphere to earth.?

The positive charges are the protons inside the nucleus of the atoms. These are generally immobile and cannot move, unlike the electrons which exist in the electron cloud around the nucleus and can be made to move fairly easily.
 
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I like the way sophiecentaur puts it. Positive charge does move, positively charged particles do not.
 
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