Easy trig question that I am having trouble with

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The discussion revolves around solving the equation 3-2csc(x) = 17, which involves trigonometric functions, specifically the cosecant function. Participants express confusion regarding the correct values of x and the relationship between angles on the unit circle.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants attempt to solve for x and question the validity of their answers. There is discussion about the relationship between angles on the unit circle and the interpretation of the cosecant function.

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Some participants have provided insights regarding the unit circle and the nature of the angles involved. There is acknowledgment of confusion around the values of x and the application of trigonometric identities. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored.

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Participants are grappling with the definitions and relationships of trigonometric functions, particularly in the context of the unit circle versus other circles. There is a mention of potential misunderstandings regarding the radius and its implications for the problem.

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Homework Statement



3-2csc(x) = 17

Homework Equations



N/A

The Attempt at a Solution



3-2csc(x)= 17
-2csc(x) = 14
csc(x) = -7

cscˆ-1(-7) = x

x = -.14 radians. This is not the correct answer. The correct answerS ARE 3.28 or 6.24 radians. I am beyond confused. Please help :)

Thanks
 
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nicksbyman said:

Homework Statement



3-2csc(x) = 17

Homework Equations



N/A

The Attempt at a Solution



3-2csc(x)= 17
-2csc(x) = 14
csc(x) = -7

cscˆ-1(-7) = x

x = -.14 radians. This is not the correct answer. The correct answerS ARE 3.28 or 6.24 radians. I am beyond confused. Please help :)

Thanks

Do you mean 3.28 and 6.14?
 
stevenb said:
Do you mean 3.28 and 6.14?

Yes, sorry I copied it wrong. But how did you get that?
 
nicksbyman said:
Yes, sorry I copied it wrong. But how did you get that?

OK, think about the unit circle.

The answer of -.14 is the same as 6.14 because they are different by 2pi (ignoring round off error, of course).

The other answer comes from thinking about any other places on the unit circle that might have the same value of csc. Since csc=1/sin, then you need to think about the unit circle and the another place where the sine is the same value.
 
stevenb said:
OK, think about the unit circle.

The answer of -.14 is the same as 6.14 because they are different by 2pi (ignoring round off error, of course).

The other answer comes from thinking about any other places on the unit circle that might have the same value of csc. Since csc=1/sin, then you need to think about the unit circle and the another place where the sine is the same value.

That's the perfect response :D I just spent the last 15 minutes or so toiling with that question (I'm a slow learner) and I finally got it.

Thanks again.

P.S. Correct me if I'm wrong, but we aren't dealing with the unit circle here right? We only deal with the unit circle when the radius is 1 I thought. In this case, the radius is 7. That is, we are dealing with a circle, but not the unit circle.
 
nicksbyman said:
P.S. Correct me if I'm wrong, but we aren't dealing with the unit circle here right? We only deal with the unit circle when the radius is 1 I thought. In this case, the radius is 7. That is, we are dealing with a circle, but not the unit circle.

No, the radius is not 7. The unit circle applies to all trig functions. the -7 in the is case is better thought of as -1/7 which is the sine of the angle.

Personally, I always find secant and cosecant to be confusing, and prefer to think in terms of sine and cosine. It's just a preference, but it may be one that helps you.
 

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