Effects of a gamma ray burst on earth

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the potential effects of a gamma ray burst (GRB) on Earth, particularly in relation to historical extinction events such as the Ordovician extinction. Participants explore various models and theories regarding the implications of GRBs on the atmosphere and biological life.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants reference a model suggesting that a GRB at the South Pole correlates with theories about the Ordovician extinction, noting that measured extinction rates align with predictions of latitude-dependent biological damage.
  • Others question the significance of the findings, highlighting the need for further evidence to determine the impact of GRBs on Earth's atmosphere and life.
  • A participant emphasizes that current understanding relies on atmospheric modeling and "what if" scenarios, expressing uncertainty about the significance of the new paper's claims without additional evidence linking GRBs to extinction events.
  • There is a call for more concrete evidence, such as finding GRB traces on Earth during extinction periods or proxies for GRB effects, to strengthen the model's validity.
  • Participants express frustration over discussing a paper without access to its full content, which limits the depth of the conversation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the significance of the findings related to GRBs and their effects on Earth. Multiple competing views remain regarding the implications of the models and the need for further evidence.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the lack of access to the original paper for some participants, which affects the depth of discussion. There are also unresolved questions about the nuances of the Ordovician extinction and the specific evidence required to support claims about GRB impacts.

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http://phys.org/news/2016-10-deadly-nearby-gamma-ray.html
How deadly would a nearby gamma ray burst be?
The original paper in Astrobiology is locked, but this summary is pretty complete.

"A burst at the South Pole fits in with theories of the Ordovician extinction because the measured extinction rates match the models that predicts latitude-dependent biological damage."
 
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At this time all there seems to be is a model based on various aspects of space and atmospheric science. I don't know enough of the nuances of the Ordovician extinction to say that there is more evidence in support of the model than the way the extinction traveled. The next step in linking a GRB to the extinction would be to find other GRB evidence on Earth at the time of the extinctions, or evidence and proxies for any GRB effects on Earth at any time. This model is an expansion of
http://www.nasa.gov/vision/universe/starsgalaxies/gammaray_extinction.html, in 2005. "The strength of their work is their atmospheric modeling -- essentially a "what if" scenario." Prof. Melott at U. Kansas writes many papers like that and I like them for a starting point for speculations. So, I don't know what's significant and what isn't.
 
By that I mean what's significant about anything presented in the new paper.
 
Thanks for that link. It's hard to discuss a paper for which you can present only the abstract or the media highlight. Once I've downloaded a PDF, I don't usually
remember if it was locked or open access.
 
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