Eigenfunction energy levels in a harmonic well

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The discussion revolves around the energy eigenfunctions in a harmonic oscillator potential, specifically focusing on the first few eigenfunctions and their properties. Participants are examining the formulation of these eigenfunctions and their implications in a quantum mechanical context.

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  • Participants explore the correctness of proposed eigenfunctions and their orthogonality. There is a discussion on the formulation of a specific wave function involving eigenstates and the use of ladder operators. Questions arise regarding the approach to expressing the wave function in terms of known eigenfunctions and angular frequency.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights into the properties of eigenfunctions and questioning the validity of certain assumptions. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of energy levels and their corresponding time evolution factors, while others are still clarifying their understanding of the eigenfunctions involved.

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There is mention of specific energy levels and their expressions, as well as the need for clarity on the original problem statement. Participants are also navigating the implications of orthogonality and the requirements for expressing the wave function over time.

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Homework Statement


If the first two energy eigenfunctions are
## \psi _0(x) = (\frac {1}{\sqrt \pi a})^ \frac{1}{2} e^\frac{-x^2}{2a^2} ##,
## \psi _1(x) = (\frac {1}{2\sqrt \pi a})^ \frac{1}{2}\frac{2x}{a} e^\frac{-x^2}{2a^2} ##

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Would it then be correct to presume
## \psi _3(x) = (\frac {1}{4\sqrt \pi a})^ \frac{1}{2}\frac{4x}{a} e^\frac{-x^2}{2a^2} ##

Thank you for your time in considering this.
 
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Lazy Rat said:
Would it then be correct to presume ...
It would not because it is not orthogonal to ##\psi_1(x)## but the same as ##\psi_1(x)##. Also, you do not state the question that the problem asks.
 
No. In terms of ladder operators, the nth eigenfunction is given by

<br /> <br /> |n \rangle \equiv \psi_{n}(x) = \frac{(a^\dagger)^n}{\sqrt{n!}} |0 \rangle<br /> <br />
 
the specific question goes as so

For this equation

## \Psi (x,0) = \frac {1}{\sqrt{2}}(\psi_1 (x)-\psi_3 (x)) ##

The system is undisturbed, obtain an expression for ##\psi (x,t)## that is valid for all t ≥ 0. Express in terms of the functions ##\psi_1 (x)##, ##\psi_3 (x)## and ##ω_0##, the classical angular frequency of the oscillator.

I am trying to approach this by simply inputting the eigenfunctions for

##\psi _1(x) = (\frac {1}{2\sqrt \pi a})^ \frac{1}{2}\frac{2x}{a} e^\frac{-x^2}{2a^2}##

And then for

##\psi _3(x)## (which as yet I haven't understood)

And

##a = \sqrt{\frac {\hbar}{ω_0}}##

Would this be the correct approach to express in the terms as stated?

Thank you for assisting me with my problem.
 
So would i use the fact that ## E_1 = \frac {3}{2} \hbar ω_0 ## which would give ## e^ \frac {- 3iω_0t}{2} ##
And ## E_3 = \frac {7}{2} \hbar ω_0 ## which would give ## e^ \frac {- 7iω_0t}{2} ##

Am I on the right track?
 
Lazy Rat said:
So would i use the fact that ## E_1 = \frac {3}{2} \hbar ω_0 ## which would give ## e^ \frac {- 3iω_0t}{2} ##
And ## E_3 = \frac {7}{2} \hbar ω_0 ## which would give ## e^ \frac {- 7iω_0t}{2} ##

Am I on the right track?

Yes.
 
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