Eigenfunction of Angular Momentum Squared Operator

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The discussion revolves around demonstrating that a specific function, Y(θ, φ) = Csin²θe²iφ, is an eigenfunction of the angular momentum squared operator. Participants are analyzing the application of differential operators to this function within the context of quantum mechanics.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are attempting to apply the angular momentum operator to the function and express the result in the form of a scalar multiple of the original function. There are discussions about the combination of terms and the application of derivatives, particularly regarding the second derivatives with respect to θ and φ.

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Some participants have provided guidance on checking earlier steps and correcting mistakes in the differentiation process. There is an ongoing exploration of the terms generated from the derivatives, with some participants expressing uncertainty about the signs and combinations of terms. The discussion reflects a collaborative effort to clarify the mathematical reasoning involved.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information they can share or the methods they can use. There is an acknowledgment of potential elementary mistakes in the calculations, which adds to the complexity of the discussion.

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Homework Statement



The square of the angular momentum operator is (in SPC);

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/67/54712598.png

Show that Y([itex]\theta[/itex],[itex]\phi[/itex]) = C[itex]sin^{2}[/itex][itex]\theta[/itex][itex]e^{2i\phi}[/itex]

Is an eigenfunction. C is a constant.

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The Attempt at a Solution



I am not able to get it in the form of (A number) times Y([itex]\theta[/itex],[itex]\phi[/itex]) = C[itex]sin^{2}[/itex][itex]\theta[/itex][itex]e^{2i\phi}[/itex]. No matter what, I always end up with;

-2C[itex]sin^{2}[/itex][itex]\theta[/itex][itex]e^{2i\phi}[/itex] - 4C[itex]e^{2i\phi}[/itex] - and I don't know what to do with that.

This is clearly not what I want, there is an extra term that I just can't seem to eradicate. What am I doing wrong?
 
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You might want to show some of the earlier steps. You've made a mistake combining the first 2 terms.
 
fzero said:
You might want to show some of the earlier steps. You've made a mistake combining the first 2 terms.

Hmm, well with

[itex]\frac{\delta^{2}}{\delta\theta^{2}}[/itex] of Y([itex]\theta[/itex],[itex]\phi[/itex]) I get

(having taken the constant C out)

[itex]-2e^{2i\phi}[/itex]([itex]sin^{2} - cos^{2}[/itex])With [itex]cot\theta \frac{\delta}{\delta\theta}[/itex]

I get

[itex]-2e^{2i\phi}[/itex][itex]\frac{cos\theta}{sin\theta} sin\theta cos\theta[/itex] = [itex]-2e^{2i\phi}[/itex][itex]cos^{2}\theta[/itex]

and lastly with

[itex]\frac{1}{sin^{2}\theta}\frac{\delta^{2}}{\delta {\phi}^{2}}[/itex]

I get [itex]-4e^{2i\phi}[/itex]

Adding all the terms gives me;

[itex]-2e^{2i\phi}[/itex][itex]sin^{2} \theta[/itex] [itex]-4e^{2i\phi}[/itex]

Have I done something wrong?
 
Silversonic said:
With [itex]cot\theta \frac{\delta}{\delta\theta}[/itex]

I get

[itex]-2e^{2i\phi}[/itex][itex]\frac{cos\theta}{sin\theta} sin\theta cos\theta[/itex] = [itex]-2e^{2i\phi}[/itex][itex]cos^{2}\theta[/itex]

You've factored out the [itex]-\hbar^2[/itex] so there's no minus sign in front of this term.
 
fzero said:
You've factored out the [itex]-\hbar^2[/itex] so there's no minus sign in front of this term.

[itex]\frac{\delta}{\delta\theta}[/itex] of

[itex]sin^{2}[/itex][itex]\theta[/itex][itex]e^{2i\phi}[/itex]

is

[itex]2sin\theta(-cos\theta)e^{2i\phi}[/itex] = [itex]-2sin\theta cos\theta e^{2i\phi}[/itex]

surely?

So times by [itex]cot\theta[/itex]

is

[itex]-2 cos^{2} \theta e^{2i\phi}[/itex]

?
 
Silversonic said:
[itex]\frac{\delta}{\delta\theta}[/itex] of

[itex]sin^{2}[/itex][itex]\theta[/itex][itex]e^{2i\phi}[/itex]

is

[itex]2sin\theta(-cos\theta)e^{2i\phi}[/itex] = [itex]-2sin\theta cos\theta e^{2i\phi}[/itex]

surely?

No,

[itex]\frac{d}{d\theta}\sin\theta = \cos\theta,~~~\frac{d}{d\theta}\cos\theta = -\sin\theta.[/itex]

You'll want to doublecheck the first term as well then, but you had the overall sign correct there.
 
fzero said:
No,

[itex]\frac{d}{d\theta}\sin\theta = \cos\theta,~~~\frac{d}{d\theta}\cos\theta = -\sin\theta.[/itex]

You'll want to doublecheck the first term as well then, but you had the overall sign correct there.

Oh my good lord.

This is just embarrassing. It's not like I'm even tired or anything, I just continuously made an elementary mistake.

Thanks. I'll be handing in my University resignation form tomorrow ._.
 

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