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The discussion centers on Einstein's original derivation of the E=mc² formula, specifically addressing the approximation made by neglecting higher order derivatives. While the original 1905 paper provides an approximate derivation, modern physics utilizes 4-vectors to express the relationship more precisely with the equation E² - (pc)² = (mc²)². For a particle at rest (p=0), this simplifies to E=mc², confirming the exactness of the equation. The discussion highlights the evolution of the derivation from Einstein's initial work to contemporary formulations.

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Hi, by reading the Einstein's original derivation of the E=mc2 formula (http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/www/), Einstein does an
approximation by neglecting higher order derivatives before arriving at
E=mc2. But, as far as I know, E equals mc2 precisely. Does anyone know why Einstein didnt derive the equation precisely? I tried to play with the paper a bit to make it spit out the precise equation but didnt have much luck-I must be overlooking something. Could someone help me with this one?
 
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Hi, by reading the Einstein's original derivation of the E=mc2 formula (http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/www/), Einstein does an
approximation by neglecting higher order derivatives before arriving at
E=mc2. But, as far as I know, E equals mc2 precisely. Does anyone know why Einstein didnt derive the equation precisely? I tried to play with the paper a bit to make it spit out the precise equation but didnt have much luck-I must be overlooking something. Could someone help me with this one?

The Sep 1905 paper derivation has been long superseeded by the modern derivation that uses 4-vectors giving the general formula:

[tex]E^2-(pc)^2=(mc^2)^2[/tex]

For p=0 you obtain [tex]E=mc^2[/tex] exactly

The above can be written a little nicer if we take c=1:

[tex]<E,E>-<p,p>=m^2[/tex]

where <,> represents the dot product. In the proper frame of the object p is 0 therefore E=m
 
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