Elastic Deformation of an Axially Loaded Member

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the elastic deformation of an axially loaded member, specifically focusing on the relationship between forces, dimensions, and elongation in a structural context. Participants explore the calculations related to the deformation of link AB under load P, addressing both theoretical and practical aspects of the problem.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a force balance equation and derives an expression for elongation based on axial load and material properties, but expresses uncertainty in relating this to the elongation of link AB.
  • Another participant notes that under load P, the dimensions of the system change, indicating that link AB is under compression and experiences a reduction in length.
  • There is a question about the new length of link AB, with one participant suggesting it would change to 749.20 mm, while another acknowledges uncertainty about the exact change, emphasizing that it depends on geometry.
  • A later reply suggests that link AB must deform less than 1 mm due to its angle with the vertical and encourages calculating the force needed for such deformation to find the value of P.
  • One participant confirms a change in length of AB equal to 0.8 mm, but does not provide further context or justification for this value.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express uncertainty regarding the exact changes in length and the relationship between forces and deformations. There is no consensus on the precise values or methods to calculate the necessary forces, indicating multiple competing views remain.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the dependence on geometric assumptions and the need for further calculations to relate the forces and deformations accurately. Some mathematical steps remain unresolved, particularly in connecting the elongation of link AB with the applied load P.

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Homework Statement
Collar A can slide freely along the smooth vertical guide. If the vertical
displacement of the collar is 1 mm and the supporting 20-mm-diameter
rod AB is made of 304 stainless steel (E = 200 GPa), determine the
magnitude of P.
Relevant Equations
ẟ = FL/AE
Sum of forces in the y-direction = 0 and downwards is +ve
P + Fab,y = 0
P + Fab (4/5) = 0
Fab = -1.25P
ẟ = FL/AE -> ẟab = FabLab/AabE

ẟab = (-1.25P*.75)/(pi*(.01)^2*(200*10^3)) = -0.0149P
After this step, I am uncertain of how I can relate the vertical elongation with AB's elongation to find Force P. Please assist.
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Under the action of load P, the shown dimmensions change to be 599 mm vertical and 450 mm horizontal.
Link AB is loaded on compression and its length is reduced some, while its internal stress increases.
 
Lnewqban said:
Under the action of load P, the shown dimensions change to be 599 mm vertical and 450 mm horizontal.
Link AB is loaded on compression and its length is reduced some, while its internal stress increases.
So, are you saying that the length of the supporting rod, AB would now change to 749.20 mm?
 
user12323567 said:
So, are you saying that the length of the supporting rod, AB would now change to 749.20 mm?
I don’t know exactly by how much (it depends on geometry), but AB becomes shorter under its axial load (which magnitude is greater than P, think mechanical advantage).

Link AB must deform less than 1 mm because the angle it forms with the vertical.

You need to calculate how much force is needed to deform link AB that much; then, you can calculate the value of P.

Please, see:
https://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/young-modulus-d_417.html
:)
 
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user12323567 said:
So, are you saying that the length of the supporting rod, AB would now change to 749.20 mm?
A change in length of AB equal to 0.8 mm is correct.
 

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