Elastic modulii relation for a sphere

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around deriving the relationship between the three elastic moduli for a sphere, particularly in comparison to a cube. Participants explore the implications of applying stress along one axis and the resulting strains in different coordinate directions, addressing the complexities introduced by the sphere's geometry.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that applying stress along the x-axis in a sphere results in strains along the y and z axes, similar to a cube, but expresses difficulty in visualizing this for a sphere.
  • Another participant argues that the stress-strain relationship for small strains is applicable to any infinitesimal element, suggesting that the strain should be the same for both a sphere and a cube if the stress is identical.
  • A different participant raises the point that the expression for strain may differ for a sphere, indicating that the concept of "faces" does not apply as it does for a cube.
  • One participant reiterates the initial concern about deriving the relationship for a sphere and mentions that elastic moduli are material characteristics, implying a distinction between elastic stiffness and compliance coefficients.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the applicability of the stress-strain relationship to spheres versus cubes, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives on how to approach the problem.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the assumptions made about the geometry of the sphere and the definitions of strain and stress in this context. The implications of these assumptions on the derivation of elastic moduli are not fully explored.

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say i derive the relationship between the 3 elastic modulii for a sphere.
i consider the 3 co-ordinate axes.if stress is applied only along x-axis,there would be a resulting strain along Y and Z.

My book derived it for a cube,that was quite simple,but i cannot imagine the resulting strain caused in a sphere unlike a cube.

vol of sphere=4/3(3.14)r^3
 
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Why would there be a difference? The stress-strain relationship (for small strains) applies to any infinitesimal element, regardless of the size or shape of the object. If the stress is the same, then the strain will be the same, sphere or cube.
 
but the expression for strain would vary in case of a sphere,right

say p/E is the stress on one of the sides of the cube

then resulting strains would be say 1*p/(m*E) on the other faces

but in case of a sphere we cannot consider faces .
 
monty37 said:
say i derive the relationship between the 3 elastic modulii for a sphere.
i consider the 3 co-ordinate axes.if stress is applied only along x-axis,there would be a resulting strain along Y and Z.

My book derived it for a cube,that was quite simple,but i cannot imagine the resulting strain caused in a sphere unlike a cube.

vol of sphere=4/3(3.14)r^3

The elastic moduls are a characteristic of the material not of the specific piece of material.
I suppose you are talking about the elastic stiffness (or compliance) coefficients.
 

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