Elastic Potential Energy of a Sprin

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The discussion focuses on calculating the compression of a spring between two trolleys of different masses when released. Initially, the user calculated the required compression using only the kinetic energy of the 4.8 kg trolley, resulting in a compression of 0.09 m. However, it was pointed out that the kinetic energy of the 1.2 kg trolley must also be considered, as both trolleys move after the spring is released. By applying conservation of momentum, the velocity of the smaller trolley was determined, leading to a revised calculation that showed the required compression is actually 0.2 m. The importance of including both trolleys' kinetic energies in the energy conservation equation was emphasized.
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Homework Statement


Two trolleys, of mass 1.2 kg and 4.8 kg, are at rest with a compressed spring between them, held that way by a string tied around both. When the string is cut, the trolleys move apart, if the force constant fo the spring is 2400 N/m, by how much must it have been compressed in order that the 4.8 kg cart move off at 2.0m/s

Cart: 4.8 kg, 2 m/s
Cart 2: 1.2 kg
Spring constant, k: 2400 N/m

Homework Equations



Ee = 1/2kx^2
Ek = 1/2mv^2

The Attempt at a Solution


E = E'
1/2kx^2 = 1/2mv^2
kx^2 = mv^2
2400x^2 = 4.8(2)^2
x^2 = 4.8(4)/2400
x = 0.09 m
 
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Why are you not including the kinetic energy of the 4.8 kg cart. The 1.2 kg cart moves too. You can use "conservation of momentum" to find its speed.
 
So then would I find the velocity of the other cart like this:

mava + mbvb = mava' + mbvb'
0 = 4.8(2) + 1.2vb'
vb' = 8

then we put that back in so

1/2kx^2 = 1/2mv^2 + 1/2mv^2
2400x^2 = 4.8(2)^2 + 1.2(8)^2
x = 0.2 m
 
testme said:

Homework Statement


Two trolleys, of mass 1.2 kg and 4.8 kg, are at rest with a compressed spring between them, held that way by a string tied around both. When the string is cut, the trolleys move apart, if the force constant fo the spring is 2400 N/m, by how much must it have been compressed in order that the 4.8 kg cart move off at 2.0m/s

Cart: 4.8 kg, 2 m/s
Cart 2: 1.2 kg
Spring constant, k: 2400 N/m

Homework Equations



Ee = 1/2kx^2
Ek = 1/2mv^2

The Attempt at a Solution


E = E'
1/2kx^2 = 1/2mv^2
kx^2 = mv^2
2400x^2 = 4.8(2)^2
x^2 = 4.8(4)/2400
x = 0.09 m
you have left out the KE of the smaller mass. It also must move out a certain velocity, using momentum conservation to find that velocity.
 
testme said:
So then would I find the velocity of the other cart like this:

mava + mbvb = mava' + mbvb'
0 = 4.8(2) + 1.2vb'
vb' = 8

then we put that back in so

1/2kx^2 = 1/2mv^2 + 1/2mv^2
2400x^2 = 4.8(2)^2 + 1.2(8)^2
x = 0.2 m
Looks like you and HallsofIvy have already worked this out...correctly...
I posted after you 'spoke'...
 
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