Electirc Field Amplitude Radiation Pattern?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the electric field amplitude radiation pattern of an isotropic antenna, addressing both transmitting and receiving scenarios. Participants explore theoretical aspects of electromagnetic wave propagation and the relationship between field amplitude and distance.

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  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant states that the electric field amplitude radiation pattern of an isotropic antenna is uniform in all directions and for both polarizations.
  • Another participant questions the value of the field amplitude at a distance r, suggesting a mathematical expression involving an exponential term.
  • A different participant expresses confusion, suggesting that the field amplitude should be independent of distance r.
  • In response, a participant explains that the electromagnetic wave propagates outward, describing the relationship between energy density and distance, referencing the inverse-square law.
  • One participant seeks clarification on the distinction between amplitude and magnitude, proposing that amplitude refers to the peak of oscillation while magnitude refers to the norm of the field.
  • Another participant introduces the concept of modeling amplitude as a complex number, discussing the general form of electromagnetic wave solutions and the implications of using different conventions for the wave function.
  • There is a correction regarding the sign in the wave function, with a participant noting the importance of being careful with the imaginary part of the permittivity in relation to wave function behavior.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relationship between field amplitude and distance, with some asserting that amplitude decreases with distance while others question this relationship. The discussion includes multiple competing perspectives on the definitions and implications of amplitude and magnitude.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various mathematical expressions and concepts, but there is no consensus on the definitions or implications of amplitude versus magnitude, nor on the specific behavior of the electric field amplitude with respect to distance.

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Electirc Field Amplitude Radiation Pattern??

Hi all,

How can I calculate the field amplitude radiation pattern of an isotropic antenna?
(for the transmitting and receiving case)

thanks in advance
 
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It's uniform, the same in all directions and for both polarizations.
 


But what's its value at a distance r?
 


whitenight541 said:
But what's its value at a distance r?

[tex]\frac{e^{ikr}}{4\pi r}[/tex]
 


but i thought that the field amplitude would be independent of the distance r.

thanks a lot for replying.
 


No, no matter what happens, the electromagnetic wave propagates out. An isotropic radiator is a spherical point source. If you consider the outgoing wave as having a wave front of a spherical shell, then the energy over the shell is constant over time (air is considered more or less lossless). The shell grows larger as the wave propagates out which means that the energy density must decrease to compensate. This results in a decrease in the electric and magnetic fields by a factor of r (energy is proportional to the amplitude squared so the energy density will drop off as r squared as you would expect). This is sometimes called the space loss factor when talking about antennas, or, more generally, the inverse-square law.
 


Let me just make sure I got that correctly.

This is probably the most stupid question: There is a difference between the amplitude of a field and its magnitude. The amplitude is the peak of oscillation and the magnitude is the norm of the field. Is this correct?

This means that the peak of oscillation of the electric field produced from an isotropic antenna at a distance r is as u said the real of (e^jkr / 4 Pi r) (since amplitude is a real number and its unit is meter). This amplitude is independent of the transmitting power.
Did I get that correctly??
 


I am considering the amplitude in this case to be a complex number, with the units of Volts/meter. While the observed electric and magnetic fields are real, we generally model them as complex numbers. Most electromagnetic wave solutions are of the form:

[tex]\mathbf{E} = E_0 e^{i\mathbf{k}\cdot\mathbf{r}} \hat{p}[/tex]

[tex]\hat{p}[/tex] is the polarization vector. [tex]E_0[/tex] is the amplitude and the exponential portion is the wave function.

That may be a little sloppy allowing the amplitude to be complex, I'm sure you can find people who will take your definition as much as mine.

Also, the wave function I gave you is not [tex]e^{jkr}[/tex] but [tex]e^{-jkr}[/tex]. I had used [tex]e^{ikr}[/tex]. There is a difference between the i and j conventions but not in the final results you will get. You need to be careful of your sign because you want to make sure that if you choose the imaginary part of the permittivity to be lossy that you have a decreasing wave function with distance.
 
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