How to Calculate the Electric Charge of a Capacitor with Mixed Dielectrics?

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The problem involves calculating the electric charge of a capacitor that contains two types of dielectric materials. The capacitor is connected to a constant voltage source, and the relevant parameters such as voltage, distance between plates, area, and relative permittivities are provided. However, the specific areas of the dielectrics are not given, leading to uncertainty in the solution.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply Gauss's Law to derive an expression for the charge but encounters difficulty due to unspecified areas of the dielectrics. Some participants suggest introducing a variable to represent the division of the plate areas, while others question whether the problem lacks sufficient data for a numerical solution.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the implications of the missing information. Some guidance has been offered regarding the introduction of a variable, but there is no consensus on whether the problem is intentionally designed to yield an expression rather than a numerical answer.

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Participants note the potential for insufficient data in the problem statement, raising questions about the expectations for the solution format. There is also mention of the possibility that the missing information may not affect the outcome if it cancels out in the calculations.

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Homework Statement



Dielectric medium inside capacitor consists of two types (check the pic). Capacitor's plates are connected to a source of constant tension U. Distance between the plates is d and their area is S. Find the electric charge of capacitor's plates.

Data given: U=500 V, d=2cm, S=80cm^2, εr1=2.5, εr2=1.0.
(ε1=εr1*ε0 ^ ε2 = εr2*ε0)

The Attempt at a Solution



By applying Gauss's Law for a surface around the capacitor's plate, I manage to get the electric field intensity which is E=\frac{Q}{ε0εr1S1+ε0εr2S2}

U=\frac{Qd}{ε0εr1S1+ε0εr2S2}=500

which implies

Q=\frac{500(ε0εr1S1+ε0εr2S2)}{d}

I don't know how to continue after this because I don't know S1 and S2 separately.

Help me!
 

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If there's a variable left unspecified then your result will be an expression in that variable. Suppose you let r specify the division of the plate areas so that S1 = r*S and S2 = (1-r)*S.
 
Yes gneill, but still that doesn't solve the problem. Does this mean the book didn't give enough data?
 
chmate said:
Yes gneill, but still that doesn't solve the problem. Does this mean the book didn't give enough data?

It would seem that there are two possibilities:
1. The book mistakenly failed to provide enough data to solve the problem numerically.
2. The book intentionally did not provide enough data to solve the problem numerically and expects an expression for an answer.

A third but unlikely possibility is that the missing data doesn't matter if its variable somehow cancels out of the problem.

If this is a homework problem to be handed in, make note of the fact that there is not enough information for a complete numerical solution and provide a simplified expression for a result.
 
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