Electric field a distance z above flat circular disk.

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The discussion focuses on calculating the electric field at a distance z above the center of a flat circular disk with radius R and uniform surface charge density σ. The solution employs Griffith's method from section 2.1, utilizing the integral form of the electric field, expressed as \vec{E(r)} = \frac{\sigma}{4\pi\epsilon_{0}}\iint\frac{z\hat{z} - r\hat{r}}{(z^2 + r^2)^{3/2}}rdrd\theta. The first integral yields the correct electric field result, while the second integral, involving the radial unit vector \hat{r}, is shown to be zero due to its dependence on the angle θ during integration. The discussion clarifies that \hat{r} is not constant when integrating over θ but is constant when integrating over r.

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Homework Statement


Find the electric field a distance above the center of a flat circular disk of radius R, which carries a uniform surface charge σ.

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Basically, I want to solve this usually trivial problem without using symmetry arguments and the superposition principle but rather the more laborious method introduced in Griffith's section 2.1. Hence:

\vec{E(r)} = \frac{1}{4\pi\epsilon_{0}}\int\frac{\sigma(r)}{r'^2}\hat{r'}da

Where \hat{r'} = \frac{z\hat{z} - r\hat{r}}{\sqrt{z^2+r^2}} and r' = \sqrt{r^2 + z^2}, thus:

\vec{E(r)} = \frac{\sigma}{4\pi\epsilon_{0}}\int\frac{z\hat{z} - r\hat{r}}{(z^2 + r^2)^{3/2}}da

Converting to polar coordinates we have:
\vec{E(r)} = \frac{\sigma}{4\pi\epsilon_{0}}\iint\frac{z\hat{z} - r\hat{r}}{(z^2 + r^2)^{3/2}}rdrd\theta

=> \frac{\sigma}{4\pi\epsilon_{0}}\int_0^{2\pi}\int_0^r\frac{z\hat{z} - r\hat{r}}{(z^2 + r^2)^{3/2}}rdrd\theta
Which gives:
\frac{\sigma2\pi}{4\pi\epsilon_{0}}[z\hat{z}\int_0^r\frac{r}{(z^2 + r^2)^{3/2}}dr - \int_0^r\frac{r^2\hat{r}}{(z^2 + r^2)^{3/2}}dr]

Evaluating the first integral gives me the correct answer for the electric field:
\frac{\sigma2\pi z}{4\pi\epsilon_{0}}[- \frac{1}{\sqrt{z^2+r^2}}\Big|_0^r]\hat{z}

Which means, the second integral must be zero: \int_0^r\frac{r^2\hat{r}}{(z^2 + r^2)^{3/2}}dr = 0

Except I am not exactly sure on how to show that is the case. The radial unit vector seems to be the problematic term, and it cannot be simply taken outside the integral. Would like to have some help and insights on this, thanks.
 
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Go back and think about the ##\theta## integration in the expression $$\iint\frac{ r\hat{r}}{(z^2 + r^2)^{3/2}}rdrd\theta$$ Note that ##\hat{r}## is not a constant when integrating over ##\theta##.
 
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TSny said:
Go back and think about the ##\theta## integration in the expression $$\iint\frac{ r\hat{r}}{(z^2 + r^2)^{3/2}}rdrd\theta$$ Note that ##\hat{r}## is not a constant when integrating over ##\theta##.

Ah, I see. Thanks. Is then ##\hat{r}## a constant when integrating with respect to ##r## then?
 
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Yes. If you integrate over ##r## first, then you are keeping ##\theta## constant. So, the unit vector ##\hat{r}## has a fixed direction.
 
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