Electric field amplitude question regarding intensity calculations

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The discussion centers on the calculation of electric field intensity using the formula I=P/(4πr²) and its implications for amplitude calculations. The participants clarify that the factor of 4 in the denominator accounts for the spherical distribution of intensity, not just a quarter circle. The correct interpretation of the intensity spread across a spherical area is essential for accurate amplitude calculations at a distance of 4.0 cm from the source. Misunderstanding the geometry involved leads to confusion regarding the intensity and amplitude relationship.

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Homework Statement
A wireless telephone is emitting a constant 10,0mW effect in a homogenous area around the telephone. What is the amplitude of the electrical field 4,0cm from the headset?
Relevant Equations
I=P/A,
I=P/(4*pi*r^2),
I=P/(pi*r^2),

I=(1/2)*√(ε0/μ0)*(E0^2)
My question is specifically with calculating the intensity. The book solution is

I=P/(4*pi*r^2)

but would this not give me a weaker electrical amplitude in the final calculation after plugging it in to
I=(1/2)*√(ε00)*(E02) ?
 
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MeatComet said:
but would this not give me a weaker electrical amplitude in the final calculation after plugging it in to
I=(1/2)*√(ε00)*(E02) ?
Weaker than what? You are asked the find the amplitude at 4.0 cm from the headset.
 
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Yes, and that would be the radius in I=P/(4*π*r2), but my question is why there is an extra 4 in the divider, does that not make it so that i only look at the quarter circle and would that imply that the book answer is only looking at the edge of the phone that is touching the face or somesuch?
Because if you only look at the area of the circle the antenna makes, that gives
A=π*r2
=>A=π*42
But according to my book, they do
I=P/A=>
I=1/4*(P/(π*42))
Which is, in fact, cutting the intensity of the field in 4, essentially only looking at a quarter slice?
Because as i understand the equation, the intensity is spread across a circular area, and to find the amplitude at 4.0cm you plug in the intensity per square centimeter across the field that you want, no?
 
MeatComet said:
why there is an extra 4 in the divider
What is the surface area of a sphere? :wink:
 
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Thanks man, i was looking at a circle. Why, why why why. Hahah, wish i could more than like your answer.
 
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