Electric field due to point charges and a ring of charge:

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The problem involves calculating the net electric field along the z-axis due to a ring of charge and a point charge. The ring is centered in the x-y plane, and the point charge is located at specific coordinates. The total charge on both the ring and the point charge is given as 40 C, which later is clarified to be 40 microcoulombs.

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  • Participants discuss the calculations for the electric field due to the ring and the point charge, questioning the accuracy of the results. There is a focus on the method of plugging values into the equations and the interpretation of the charge value.

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Some participants have provided calculations and expressed confusion over the results, particularly regarding the magnitude of the electric field. Clarifications about the charge value being in microcoulombs rather than coulombs have been noted. There is an indication that one participant has resolved their confusion regarding the calculations.

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Participants are working under the assumption that the charge values and distances are correctly interpreted, but there is a significant focus on ensuring the correct units and calculations are applied. The discussion reflects a mix of attempts to clarify the problem setup and the calculations involved.

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Homework Statement



A ring of charge with radius R = 0.5 m is centered on the origin in the x-y plane. A positive point charge is located at the following coordinates:
x = 19.0 m
y = -14.6 m
z = -2.6 m

The point charge and the total charge on the ring are the same, Q = +40 C.
Find the net electric field along the z-axis at z = 7.3 m.
E net,x = ?
E net,y = ?
E net z = ?



Homework Equations


Due to ring: E(z)=(kqz)/(z^2+R^2)^(3/2)
Due to a point charge: E= kq/r^2

The Attempt at a Solution



I found the electric field due to the ring pretty easily I just plugged everything into the equation I have above and for that I got 6699.284 N/C, is that right? I thought for the point charge I just plug and chug as well but I got it wrong and I don't know why. I have no idea how else to do it. Help please!
 
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With charges as large as 40C involved, I doubt that the field strength will be as modest as you've indicated for the ring; I suspect that a few orders of magnitude have gone astray somewhere.

You should be able to "plug and chug" as you you say. Perhaps you could share your calculation.
 
Due to the ring I did:
E(z)= kqz/(z^2+R^2)^(3/2) = (8.988x10^9)*(40x10^(-6))*(7.3)/((7.3^2+0.5^2)^(3/2)) =6699.28362778 N/C.
That's wrong? And for the second part I tried everything, from just plugging in the numbers to using the x and y components of each point. I don't know what else to do.
 
arl146 said:
Due to the ring I did:
E(z)= kqz/(z^2+R^2)^(3/2) = (8.988x10^9)*(40x10^(-6))*(7.3)/((7.3^2+0.5^2)^(3/2)) =6699.28362778 N/C.
That's wrong? And for the second part I tried everything, from just plugging in the numbers to using the x and y components of each point. I don't know what else to do.

So the charge is 40 micro coulombs, not 40 coulombs as you have in the problem statement?

Show your numbers for the point charge calculation. What's the distance vector from the point charge to the location of interest?
 
Yes, it is actually micro coulombs. Sorry! I called that distance r (little r, not the radius big R) and I did sqrt((19^2)+(7.3^2)) for the E net,.

And for the point charge:
E,x = kq/r^2 = (8.988x10^9)*(40x10^(-6))/(414.29) = 867.7979 N/C
 
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Your r doesn't look right. Once again, what is the vector from the point charge to the test point?
 
Oh ! I actually got it ! Thanks for you time :) I figured it out.
 

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