Electric field generated by solenoid

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The discussion revolves around the electric field generated by a solenoid, specifically focusing on a formula provided for calculating the electric field in relation to a changing current within the solenoid. Participants express confusion regarding the variables in the formula and the applicability of the formula to the given problem context.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants question the meaning of the symbols in the formula and whether it applies to the problem at hand, particularly regarding the variable alpha. There is also discussion about the relevance of the distance from the axis of the solenoid and the implications of being outside the solenoid.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights and questioning the assumptions made in the problem statement. Some guidance is offered regarding the application of Faraday's law in the context of a changing magnetic field, but there is no consensus on the interpretation of the problem or the formula.

Contextual Notes

There is uncertainty regarding the problem statement's clarity, particularly the reference to the distance from the axis of the solenoid and the conditions under which the electric field is being evaluated. Participants note potential discrepancies between the formula and the problem's parameters.

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Homework Statement
"A long solenoid has a radius of 2.08 cm and 1070 turns per meter. Over a certain time interval the current varies with time according to the expression I = 2.80t, where I is in amperes and t is in seconds. Calculate the electric field 4.54 cm from the axis of the solenoid."
Relevant Equations
E=(1/2r)(alpha)R^2(muo)Ioe^-(alpha)t.
The formula we are given is E=(1/2r)(alpha)R^2(muo)Ioe^-(alpha)t.

However, I am struggling to figure out what each of the symbols stands for in the formula...can someone help me out? Like super confused on what alpha is in this case.
 
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quarkyphysicsgirl said:
Homework Statement:: "A long solenoid has a radius of 2.08 cm and 1070 turns per meter. Over a certain time interval the current varies with time according to the expression I = 2.80t, where I is in amperes and t is in seconds. Calculate the electric field 4.54 cm from the axis of the solenoid."
Relevant Equations:: E=(1/2r)(alpha)R^2(muo)Ioe^-(alpha)t.

The formula we are given is E=(1/2r)(alpha)R^2(muo)Ioe^-(alpha)t.

However, I am struggling to figure out what each of the symbols stands for in the formula...can someone help me out? Like super confused on what alpha is in this case.
Well well, hello @quarkyphysicsgirl,
:welcome: ##\qquad## !​

You are struggling, but I am too ! The variables in the problem statement don't even appear in the formula you were given !
You sure there isn't a huge mixup going on here ?

Not only that, but the problem statement is imposssible: 4.54 cm from the axis ? Where ? In New York or in Cincinnati ?

Back to the drawing board (or to teacher). It may also help to consult your notes and/or textbook.

Finally, PF has a bunch of rules/guidelines -- well worth reading :wink:

and - as a PS - check out ##\LaTeX##

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quarkyphysicsgirl said:
The formula we are given is E=(1/2r)(alpha)R^2(muo)Ioe^-(alpha)t.

However, I am struggling to figure out what each of the symbols stands for in the formula...can someone help me out? Like super confused on what alpha is in this case.
That formula doesn't apply to this problem.

In this problem, you have a changing current and therefore a changing magnetic field produced by the solenoid. A changing magnetic field induces an electric field. The problem can be solved by a straightforward application of Faraday's law.

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Not only that, but the problem statement is imposssible: 4.54 cm from the axis ? Where ? In New York or in Cincinnati ?
4.54 cm from the axis of the solenoid. I'm not sure why you think there's a problem here.
 
@quarkyphysicsgirl What is the context of this problem? Is it from an introductory physics course? When they say "long solenoid" it is supposed to be an indication that the formula for ideal solenoid is used. The point indicated (4.54 cm) it is outside the solenoid (radius is 2.08 cm) and the magnetic field is ideally zero at this point. As it is at all points outside the solenoid. Something seems to be wrong. Or weird.
 
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Just because ##\vec B=0## outside the solenoid doesn't mean ##\vec E=0##.
 

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