Electric Field in a Hemisphere

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves calculating the electric field at the center of curvature of a nonconducting hemispherical cup with a uniform charge distribution on its inner surface. The subject area pertains to electrostatics and electric fields.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to derive the electric field using integration of contributions from charge elements, but questions the discrepancy between their result and the expected answer. Some participants suggest considering the vector nature of electric fields and the symmetry of the problem.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively exploring different components of the electric field and discussing the implications of symmetry. There is a lack of consensus on the correct answer, with some suggesting the book may be incorrect based on their calculations.

Contextual Notes

There is a discussion about the definition of the center of curvature and how it may affect the calculations. One participant notes that if the cup were closed, it could change the surface area and potentially align with the book's answer.

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Homework Statement



A nonconducting hemispherical cup of inner Radius R has a total charge Q spread uniformly over its inner surface. Find the electric field at the center of curvature.

Homework Equations



[itex]\sigma[/itex] = [itex]\frac{Q}{2piR^{2}}[/itex]

dq = [itex]\sigma[/itex] dA = [itex]\sigma[/itex] R[itex]^{2}[/itex]Sin[itex]\theta[/itex]d[itex]\theta[/itex]d[itex]\phi[/itex]
k = [itex]\frac{1}{4\pi\epsilon_{}0}[/itex]

The Attempt at a Solution



dE = [itex]\frac{kdq}{R^{2}}[/itex]
dE = [itex]\frac{k \sigma R^{2} Sin\theta d\theta d\phi}{R^{2}}[/itex] = [itex]k \sigma Sin \theta d \theta d \phi[/itex]

E = [itex]k \sigma \int^{2 \pi}_{0} \int^{\frac{\pi}{2}}_{0} Sin \theta d \theta d \phi[/itex]
E = k [itex]\sigma 2 \pi[/itex] = k [itex]\frac{Q}{R^{2}}[/itex]

But for some reason, the answer is listed as k [itex]\frac{Q}{3R^{2}}[/itex]. I have no idea why my answer is factor of 3 larger. Any help would be appreciated.
 
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Do not forget that the electric field is a vector quantity, so is dE. You can add the contributions as vectors: Determine the x, y and z components of dE and integrate.

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Alright, so the x and y components of the field will cancel by symmetry correct? Therefore, only the z-component dEz = dECos[itex]\theta[/itex] will remain.

Ez = [itex]k \sigma \int^{2 \pi}_{0} \int^{\frac{\pi}{2}}_{0} Sin \theta Cos \theta d \theta d \phi[/itex]
Ez = [itex]k \sigma \int^{2 \pi}_{0} \frac{1}{2} [Sin^{2} \theta]^{\frac{\pi}{2}}_{0} d \phi[/itex]
Ez = [itex]k \sigma \int^{2 \pi}_{0} \frac{1}{2} d \phi[/itex]
Ez = [itex]k \sigma \pi[/itex] = k [itex]\frac{Q}{2 R^{2}}[/itex]

This still seems to be off from the correct answer unless I did this wrong.
 
It looks correct to me. I don't know why the answer is listed differently...
 
So the correct answer is k [itex]\frac{Q}{2 R^{2}}[/itex] ?
 
Yes, that's what I get the answer to be.
 
My definition of the center of curvature is correct right? It would be the center of the bottom of the hemisphere? If so, I guess the book's answer is wrong.
 
Yes, I would have thought the centre of curvature was the centre of the bottom of the hemisphere. (since this point is equidistant from any point on the curve).

It seems to me that the book is wrong. This does happen sometimes. (Rarely, though).
 
If the cup is closed (with a cover), it adds /pi r^2 to the surface and the book's answer is correct.
 

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