Electric Field of a Spherical Shell: Sketching E vs. r

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The discussion revolves around the electric field of a spherical shell with inner and outer radii, containing a uniformly distributed charge. The original poster seeks to understand the electric field in different regions relative to the shell and how to sketch the electric field as a function of distance from the center.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to analyze the expression for the electric field in the region between the inner and outer radii and questions the shape of the graph based on the rational function derived. They express uncertainty about whether simplifications could lead to a linear representation.
  • Some participants suggest using graphing software or tools like Maple to visualize the function, while others inquire about the general behavior of rational functions in this context.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring different methods to understand the graph's shape without extensive calculus. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of software tools for visualization, and there is an ongoing inquiry into the characteristics of the rational function involved.

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The original poster expresses concern about the complexity of sketching the function and the potential need for extensive analysis, indicating a desire for a more straightforward approach to understanding the graph's shape.

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1) A shperical sheel has inner radius R_in and outer radius R_out. The shell contains total charge Q, uniformly distributed. The interior of the shell is empty of matter and charge. Find the electric field for (a)r>R_out, (b)r<R_in, and (c)R_in<r<R_out respectively. Then sketch a graph of E versus r. [E=electric field]

These are the answers I get:
a) E=KQ/r^2 [radially outward] where K=9.0x10^9
b) E=0
c) [KQ(r^3-R_in^3)]/[r^2(R_out^3-R_in^3)][/color] where K=9.0x10^9

My problem is for the sketching part on the interval R_in<r<R_out. How can I know the shape of [KQ(r^3-R_in^3)]/[r^2(R_out^3-R_in^3)]. Can I just do some cancellation like r^3/r^2 = r? Would it just be a straight line? But the expression seems like it's a rational function, so would it still be linear?

However, to sketch rational functions would require 3 full pages of analysis using calculus...is there any way to do a quick sketch for this part while getting the correct shape?

Does anyone have any idea?
Thanks for helping!:smile:
 
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How about using Maple? Assume convenient values for [itex]R_{out}[/itex] and [itex]R_{in}[/itex] (like 2 and 1, respectively). Then you can get an idea of the shape of the graph.
 
What is maple?

Would a rational function with a degree of 3 in the numerator and a degree of 2 in the denominator always gives something that is roughly linear for R_in<r<R_out ? I tried using some graphing software to graph it, and it seems quite linear for R_in<r<R_out
[but I don't know how to figure the shape out without a graphing software]
 
Maple is a computer algebra system that has graphing capabilities. It's available for free at just about every college and university in North America. But if you don't know what Maple is, then you could use a graphing calculator.
 

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