Electric Field Produced by a Finite Charged Wire

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The problem involves calculating the electric field produced by a finite charged wire with a linear charge density at a specific point above its midpoint. The context is rooted in electrostatics and requires the application of integral calculus to derive the electric field expression in terms of given parameters.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the setup of the problem, including the symmetry of the electric field components. There are attempts to express the electric field in terms of the linear charge density and the distance from the wire. Some participants suggest re-evaluating the approach to the integral and the limits of integration.

Discussion Status

Several participants have provided insights and suggestions for refining the approach to the integral. There is an indication that a productive direction has been established, particularly in terms of setting the correct limits for integration and focusing on the y-component of the electric field.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the assumption that the wire has negligible thickness and are required to express the final answer in terms of specific variables, including L, λ, d, and k. There is a focus on ensuring that the calculations adhere to the constraints of the problem.

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Homework Statement


A charged wire of negligible thickness has length 2L units and has a linear charge density λ. Consider the electric field E⃗ at the point P, a distance d above the midpoint of the wire.

What is the magnitude E of the electric field at point P? Throughout this part, express your answers in terms of the constant k, defined by k=1/4πϵ0. Express your answer in terms of L, λ, d, and k.

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Homework Equations



E = k(q/r2)

##\int \frac {dx} {\sqrt {x^2 + d^2}} = \frac {x} {d^2 \sqrt {x^2 + d^2}}##

The Attempt at a Solution



##E = E_x + E_y##

##E_x = 0## by symmetry.

##dE_y = dEcos(cos^{-1}(\frac {x} {\sqrt {x^2 + d^2}}) = dE \frac {x} {\sqrt {x^2 + d^2}}##

so to find dE:

##E = k \frac {q} {r^2} ##

##dE = k \frac {dq} {\sqrt {x^2 + d^2}^2} ## , ##dq = \lambda dx##

##dE = k \frac {\lambda dx} {\sqrt {x^2 + d^2}^2}##

then substitute this in the dE_y equation:

##dE_y = k \frac {\lambda dx} {x^2 + d^2} \frac {d} {\sqrt {x^2 + d^2}}##

## E_y = k\lambda d \int \frac {dx} {(x^2 + d^2) ^ {3/2}} ##

then I used an integral table to for the integral:

##E_y = k\lambda d \frac {x} {d^2 \sqrt{x^2 + d^2}} ##

I'm not sure what to do with the x's since the answer is supposed to be in terms of L, λ, d, and k.

##\int dq = \int \frac {\lambda} {dx} ##

##q = \lambda x##

##x = q / \lambda## , ##\lambda = q/2L##

##x = q (q / 2L) = 2L##

So ##E = E_y = \frac {k\lambda 2L} {d \sqrt{4L^2 + d^2}} ##
This is not right
 
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I think you are taking the wrong angle here.Try to look it again.Also I recommend you to pick a point charge and we know the relationship that ##λ=dq/dx## from there as you proceed there's only y component of the E-Field.Then after writing the integral turn it to in terms of dx and think about the boundries of your integral.In this way you should be able to do this very easily.
 
Arman777 said:
I think you are taking the wrong angle here.Try to look it again.Also I recommend you to pick a point charge and we know the relationship that ##λ=dq/dx## from there as you proceed there's only y component of the E-Field.Then after writing the integral turn it to in terms of dx and think about the boundries of your integral.In this way you should be able to do this very easily.

it worked, I did the same integral but put limits -L and L like this:

##\int_{-L}^L \, \frac{dx} {(x^2 + d^2)^{3/2}} ##

## = [\frac {L} {d^2 \sqrt{(L^2 + d^2)}} - \frac {-L} {d^2 \sqrt{((-L)^2 + d^2)}}]##

## = \frac {2L} {d^2 \sqrt{(L^2 + d^2)}} ##

final answer: ##E = k\lambda d ( \frac {2L} {d^2 \sqrt{(L^2 + d^2)}}) ##

= ## k\lambda \frac {2L} {d \sqrt{(L^2 + d^2)}}##

Thank you
 
fishturtle1 said:
it worked, I did the same integral but put limits -L and L like this:

##\int_{-L}^L \, \frac{dx} {(x^2 + d^2)^{3/2}} ##

## = [\frac {L} {d^2 \sqrt{(L^2 + d^2)}} - \frac {-L} {d^2 \sqrt{((-L)^2 + d^2)}}]##

## = \frac {2L} {d^2 \sqrt{(L^2 + d^2)}} ##

final answer: ##E = k\lambda d ( \frac {2L} {d^2 \sqrt{(L^2 + d^2)}}) ##

= ## k\lambda \frac {2L} {d \sqrt{(L^2 + d^2)}}##

Thank you
Your welcome :)
 

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