Electric field strength on particles of various distances

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SUMMARY

The discussion centers on the relationship between electric field strength and distance from charged particles, specifically two positively charged particles. The key equation referenced is E = kQ/r², which establishes that electric field strength (E) is inversely proportional to the square of the distance (r) from the charge (Q). Participants confirm that while the electric fields from both charges interact, the field strength at any point is indeed dependent on the distance from the individual charges. Additionally, the concept of electric flux (Φ) is discussed, emphasizing that maximum flux occurs at specific angles, but the underlying dependency on distance remains consistent.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of electric fields and their properties
  • Familiarity with Coulomb's law and the equation E = kQ/r²
  • Basic knowledge of electric flux and its relation to electric fields
  • Concept of vector addition in physics
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  • Explore the concept of electric flux in detail, particularly Φ = EA
  • Study vector fields and how to add electric field vectors
  • Investigate the implications of superposition in electric fields
  • Learn about the concept of electromotive force (emf) and its relation to electric fields
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There is no math in this one! I just wanted to know if I had the idea correct.

Homework Statement



If I have two positively charged particles at a distance between them that a field is produced between and around them, will test particles that repel away be solely a function of their distance from the charged particles? In other words, is the field strength only dependent on distance from particle?

Where the two fields meet and field lines become uniform, the flux is greatest there. Will the intensity of the field here still be dependent on distance from the charged particles?

Homework Equations



I see a relation between E = kQ/r2 and Φ=EA .

The Attempt at a Solution



Since Φ is dependent on E, which in turn is dependent on size of charge divided by distance squared, I believe that field strength is dependent on distance. Have I got this correct?
 
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Dear chop&,

It is a bit hard to extract your perception from this essay !
A few notes:
A charged particle generates a field all over the place.
Another charged particle does so too. The fields 'meet' everywhere ! And they simply add up, but:
Electrostatic fields are vector fields. So the field vectors must be added up (as vectors, of course).

For your two identical charges casus the electric field looks like (picture from here)

samecharge.png


and what is shown are the field lines of the total field. Close to a charge the influence of the other charge is relatively small and the field looks like the field from a single charge. In the symmetry plane the horizontal components cancel and in the very center the total field is even zero (not the potential !).

chopnhack said:
I see a relation between E = kQ/r2 and Φ=EA .
You don't say what these are. But they indeed have an E in common.
chopnhack said:
I believe that field strength is dependent on distance.
Yes, you even wrote it out: E = kQ/r2. But you mean something else, perhaps ?
 
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BvU said:
But you mean something else, perhaps ?

I should have included a photo! Thank you BvU, that is exactly what I was looking at ;-)
I guess I just wanted to be sure - when I first looked at this situation, I was sure of the field strength being dependent on distance from the charged particle, but then I started reading about flux and how flux was maximum at 90 degrees and I saw how there were two lines of force passing through the particle at the bottom and though, hmmm... maybe I don't understand the concept as well as I thought I did. So despite the two lines of flux - it is still dependent on distance from particle.

Yes, the center is null because the two charges oppose each other. Interesting to note that the center is not at zero potential - I was curious about that when I was reading! But I guess that makes sense, if you were to introduce a charged particle between the two, a new set of lines of force would rearrange the structure and charged particles would move - isn't that emf?

samecharge.png
 

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