Electric Fields ( i attached a file)

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The discussion revolves around electric fields, specifically focusing on the equations related to electric dipoles and the behavior of electric fields generated by positive and negative charges. Participants are exploring the mathematical representation of these fields and the underlying principles governing their direction and magnitude.

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  • Participants are attempting to understand the setup of electric field equations for negative charges, questioning why certain components are negative based on their graphical representation. There are discussions about the symmetry of electric fields and the vector components contributing to the total electric field.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights and clarifications about the electric field equations. Some have expressed confusion over specific components and their signs, while others have offered explanations regarding the vector nature of electric fields. There is a recognition of the need for further exploration of the integration of equations and the implications of charge distribution in specific problems.

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Hi, my question isn't actually over a particular homework problem, I've attached a file of my notes on electric field, electric dipoles, i don't quite understand why the equation of the electric field is setup that way for the negative charge.

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can someone help me out:smile:
 
I'd love to help, but I'm unable to open the file
 
weird what error comes up? maybe it requires the latest adobe, my file is in pdf. Argh I am not sure what could be wrong

Is there a specific way to attach files in order for them to be posted correctly for this forum?
 
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There's nothing wrong with how you posted your file; attachments just need to be approved before they can be viewed. Done!

Now, what exactly is your question? What about that expression for the field of the dipole is unclear? It's just expressing the field as a vector sum of the components of the field from each charge. Since the field from a negative charge points towards the charge, both components of its field at point P are negative. (Note that [itex]E_-[/itex] stands for the magnitude of the field at point P contributed by the negative charge.)
 
You could also have noted that the components in the [tex]x[/tex] direction cancel each other out by simmetry, without having to worry about cosines ;)
 
Well to find the Electric Field u have to add the electric field for the positive and negative charge. For the xaxis i undestand that its in the positive direction so its Ecos(theta)i but howcome for the y direction its -esin(theta)j, is it because its goin down? Thats for the positive charge electric field. For the negative charge, i don't understand why its minus Ecos(theta)i and then minus Esin(theta)j. Basically could someone explain to me why for the negative charge according to the way its graphed, why its -Ecosthetai-Esinthetaj.:smile:
 
Ok, i actually just figured it out, thnx for the help anyhow,
 
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Im just having some trouble on figuring out how some of the components are and how there being used for this part of the notes ( i attached another file),
 

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Since [itex]E_+ = E_-[/itex], [itex]E_+ + E_- = E_+ + E_+ = 2 E_+ = 2 kq/D^2[/itex].
 
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ah i c thanks doc
 
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There was one more thing on that page that i don't quite get, when integrating equation 3 into equation 2, why is the a?d there? because E=F/q=kq/r^2x1/q, I am not quite sure on where and why the a/D is needed.

And then for this one particular problem, its very similar to the above problem, but i ran into a couple problems, 1 during the setup of the electric field equation, another when choosing the correct integral to use and lastly how R-L/Pie is used in the final Electric field equation.

The actual problem is:a uniformly charged insulating rod of length 14 cm is bent into the shape of a semcircle. The rod has a total charge of -7.5uC. Find the magnitude and direction of the electric field at 0, the center of the semicircle.

I wrote down on the scan on the things I am talking. There just 3 parts.
 

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