Electric Flux Entering Cone of Radius r and Height h

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The discussion revolves around calculating the electric flux entering a cone with a specified radius and height, positioned within a uniform electric field that is parallel to the base of the cone.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the definition of the differential area element ds and its relevance to the flux calculation. There is discussion about the effective area through which the electric flux passes, with considerations of both the curved surface area of the cone and the triangular cross-section perpendicular to the electric field. Questions arise regarding the application of the divergence theorem and the relationship between the electric field and the surface area elements.

Discussion Status

The conversation is active, with participants providing insights and clarifications about the concepts involved. Some guidance has been offered regarding the nature of the area elements and their orientation relative to the electric field, though multiple interpretations of the effective area are still being considered.

Contextual Notes

Participants express confusion regarding the appropriate area to use for the flux calculation and the implications of the electric field's direction on the surface elements. There is an ongoing exploration of assumptions related to the geometry of the cone and the uniform electric field.

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Homework Statement



what is the flux entering a cone of radius r and height h located in a uniform electric field E parallel to its base?

Homework Equations



flux = E.ds

The Attempt at a Solution

 
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What is ds?

ehild
 
Better yet, what does the divergence theorem tell you?
 
ehild said:
What is ds?

ehild

it is the small element of the effective area through which flux passes
 
jyothsna pb said:
it is the small element of the effective area through which flux passes

He was hinting that your first step should be to find an expression for ds (if you evaluate the flux integral directly).
 
And what is the effective area of a curved surface like that of a cone?

ehild
 
dat is what i am confused of
 
i see 2 possibilities one the curved surface area of the cone and the other the triangular plane perpendicular to base but which one?
 
In your first formula dΦ= E˙ds is the product of E with the area normal to it. As the field lines are parallel to the base, these surface elements are parts of that triangular cross section of the cone which is perpendicular to the electric field. As E is constant simply multiply E with the area of the triangle.
 
  • #10
thanx but one more doubt can't we take curved surface area resolved into the field direction in this case?
 
  • #11
I do not quite follow you, but this is what we do. By definition, the flux is E ds cos (alpha) where alpha is the angle between E and the normal of the surface element. ds cos(alpha) is the projection of the surface area onto a plane normal to E.

ehild
 
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  • #12
thanku so much got the point now
 

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