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The problem involves calculating the distance between two electrons where the electrostatic force exerted by one electron cancels the gravitational force acting on the other. The context is within the subject area of electrostatics and gravitational forces.

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  • Participants discuss setting the gravitational force equal to the electrostatic force to find the distance between the electrons. There are questions about how to express the equations and concerns about solving the problem without numerical values.

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Some participants have provided guidance on how to set up the equations, while others express confusion about the process and seek clarification. There is an ongoing exploration of how to apply constants and variables in the equations.

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Participants mention the need to look up values such as the mass of the electron and the permittivity of free space. There is a focus on understanding the relationships between the forces involved and the variables in the equations.

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Homework Statement



An electron is released a short distance above Earth's surface. A 2ndelectron directly below it excerts an electrostatic force on the 1st electron just great enough to cancel the gravitational force on it How far below the 1st electron is the 2nd?

Homework Equations



F= Ke (q1)(q2)/r^2

The Attempt at a Solution

 
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Since the two forces are acting in opposite directions and you want them to add to zero you can set your gravity force equation equal to the electric force equation. Then you should be able to solve for the distance "r".
 
Can you write it out for me? I don't quite understand what you mean!
 
Well the force of gravity on the 1st electron is can be found using [itex]F=ma[/itex] where "a" = g = acceleration due to gravity 9.8 [itex]\frac{m}{s^2}[/itex]. You already have the equation for the force between the two electrons due to their charge. Since you want the forces to be equal(because they are opposing and cancel each other out) you can set both of these equations equal to each other. Then the only variable you won't know in this combined equation should be r which is the distance between the paritcles' centers. Your equation should look something like

[tex] mg = \frac{q_1 q_2}{4 \pi \epsilon_0 r^2}[/tex]
 
how would u solve this problem if no numbers are given? i really don't get this?
 
what u said so i set up the equation and to cancel is like Keqq= Frsq then qq=mg4 pi Eo rsq, then cancel all like terms, to have Ke=F=mg4 pi Eo?
 
xswtxoj said:
how would u solve this problem if no numbers are given? i really don't get this?

It's an electron.

You are expected to look it up.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron
 
considering that its an electron as 1.6 x 10^-19, and ur finding the distances, how would u apply that to the 2 equations above?
 
xswtxoj said:
considering that its an electron as 1.6 x 10^-19, and ur finding the distances, how would u apply that to the 2 equations above?

DukeLuke gave you the equation. So look up the mass.

Solve for R.
 
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can the equation be used as q1q2/ 4 pi (8.85x 10 ^-12 ) r sq,,,, the 8.85 be used for E0?
 
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xswtxoj said:
can the equation be used as q1q2/ 4 pi (8.85x 10 ^-12 ) r sq,,,, the 8.85 be used for E0?

Yes. Of course.
 
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is i use the [tex]mg = \frac{q_1 q_2}{4 \pi \epsilon_0 r^2}[/tex] then would it be: 9.8= 1.6 E -19 sq/ 4 (3.14)(8.85 E -12) r2, then cross multiply to get 9.8 x 4 x 3.14 x 8.85xE-12 (r sq) = 1.6x10-19 sq then get 1.089E -9 (r sq) = 2.56x -38 then divide to isolate r sq, then solve for r to get 4.84E -15
 

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