Electric Potential and Potential Energy Due to Charged Particles

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The discussion focuses on calculating the electric potential due to two charged particles positioned symmetrically along the y-axis. The potential is expressed in units of (KeQ)/a, where Ke is Coulomb's constant and Q is the charge. The participants clarify the necessity of factoring out KeQ/a to graph the potential as a function of x/a, allowing for the variable 'a' to be omitted. Additionally, the use of absolute values for the distance calculations along the y-axis is explained, emphasizing that distance cannot be negative.

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Two charged particles of equal magnitude are located along the y-axis equal distances above and below the x-axis.
Plot a graph of the electric potential at points along the x-axis over the interval -3a<x<3a. You should plot the potential in units of (KeQ)/a
Let the charge of the particle located at y=-a be negative. Plot the potential along the y-axis over the interval -4a<y<4a.

I was able to do :
(KeQ1)/r^2 + (KeQ2)/r^2 =
(KeQ)/ sqrt(x^2 + a^2) + (KeQ)/ sqrt(x^2 + -a^2) =
(2KeQ)/ sqrt(x^2 + -a^2)

Why did they factor out a KeQ/a, was it necessary? how do you plug in x to get the graph if you don't know 'a'.

and for the y axis, why did they get an absolute value for y-a and y+a.



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brojas7 said:
Two charged particles of equal magnitude are located along the y-axis equal distances above and below the x-axis.
Plot a graph of the electric potential at points along the x-axis over the interval -3a<x<3a. You should plot the potential in units of (KeQ)/a
Let the charge of the particle located at y=-a be negative. Plot the potential along the y-axis over the interval -4a<y<4a.

I was able to do :
(KeQ1)/r^2 + (KeQ2)/r^2 =
(KeQ)/ sqrt(x^2 + a^2) + (KeQ)/ sqrt(x^2 + -a^2) =
(2KeQ)/ sqrt(x^2 + -a^2)

Why did they factor out a KeQ/a, was it necessary? how do you plug in x to get the graph if you don't know 'a'.
It made it possible to graph V as a function of x/a only. You don't need to know a if you're happy with x/a for the x-axis (really making it an "x/a" axis).
and for the y axis, why did they get an absolute value for y-a and y+a.

Because r is always positive, so the quantity y-a or y- (-a) must be positive and therefore put in absolute bars. y can be as negative as -4a, remember. (a is always positive.)

BTW your 1st eq. has a typo in it. r, not r^2, as you know.
 
Ok the first part makes sense as for the second, since r is always positive and must put in the absolute bars, why didn't we do that with the first? Is it because the square root already takes care of that?
 
Also, why must r always be positive? Or is this just a rule?
And thank you for the correction, I completely overlooked it, even on paper.
 
brojas7 said:
Ok the first part makes sense as for the second, since r is always positive and must put in the absolute bars, why didn't we do that with the first? Is it because the square root already takes care of that?

Right. You just ignore the negative root.
 
brojas7 said:
Also, why must r always be positive? Or is this just a rule?
And thank you for the correction, I completely overlooked it, even on paper.

You can't have negative distance! The sign of the potential due to a charge is determined solely by the sign of the charge.
 
Ok it all makes sense now. I didn't think of it as a distance. thank you so much
 

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