Electric Potential Inside Uniformly Charged Sphere

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around finding the electric potential inside a uniformly charged sphere of radius R. Participants explore different methods of calculating the potential, particularly focusing on the choice of reference points for the potential, such as infinity versus the center of the sphere.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes the method of calculating electric potential using integrals, referencing a textbook approach that uses infinity as the reference point.
  • Another participant emphasizes that the significance of potential lies in the potential difference between two points, questioning whether the proposed method yields consistent results for potential differences.
  • A participant notes that using infinity as a reference point is preferable since the potential at infinity is defined as zero, while the center of the sphere does not have a zero potential.
  • There is a query about the feasibility of using the center of the sphere as a reference point for calculating potential.
  • One participant acknowledges that while using the center as a reference is not typically problematic, certain vector calculus theorems may only hold when the field approaches zero at infinity.
  • A participant expresses gratitude for the clarification and seeks to ensure that the integral setup yields consistent results regardless of the reference point chosen.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best reference point for calculating electric potential, with multiple viewpoints presented regarding the implications of choosing different reference points.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved considerations regarding the assumptions underlying the choice of reference points and the implications for the potential function itself.

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I wanted to know how to find the electric potential inside a uniformly charged sphere of radius R. What i understand is that my textbook uses a reference point as infinity and then expresses the potential as the difference of 2 integrals.

Sooo,

V(r)= -∫E dr and the electric field is k(qr)/R^3 r is where you are from the centre of the sphere.

So the method I have seen is
. . . . r. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . R
V = - ∫ (1/(4πεo)) qr/R³ dr - ∫ (1/(4πεo)) q/r² dr
. . . .R. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .∞

but I was wondering if there is a way to express it as one integral from 0-R
like
. . . . R. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
V = - ∫ (1/(4πεo)) qr/R³ dr
. . . .o. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

but this of course produces a different answer. Where am I wrong in my thinking?
 
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Remember that the potential at any given point is not significant; only the potential difference between two points is. Does your definition produce the same potential difference between two arbitrary points?
 
since the potential at ∞ is zero it is better to take reference there.if you will choose center of sphere ,then potential is not zero as a reference.
 
So, is it possible to find the potential using the reference as the center (origin) of the sphere and going out to the radius?
 
There is nothing seriously illegal in doing so, but some vector calculus theorems that we generally assume will hold only do so when the field falls off to zero at infinity. That doesn't stop us from considering, say, infinite constant electric fields and what that would do in some very limited cases, though. So for the most part, I see no problem. Again, the potential between two points is meaningful; the potential function itself is not.
 
Oh ok, thank you for clearing that up, makes sense now. I'm just trying to set up the right integral to get the same answer if I use the centre as reference or infinity.
 

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