Discussion Overview
The discussion revolves around the speed of electrical signals in copper and fiber optic cables, exploring theoretical and conceptual aspects of signal propagation in different mediums.
Discussion Character
- Exploratory
- Technical explanation
- Conceptual clarification
- Debate/contested
Main Points Raised
- One participant inquires about the speed of electrical signals in copper and fiber optic cables, indicating a lack of familiarity with the topic.
- Another participant states that in fiber optics, the signal travels at about 2/3 the speed of light in air, while suggesting that the speed in electrical wires is comparable.
- A participant expresses confusion regarding the speed of electricity in wires, noting that electrons, due to their mass, cannot travel at the speed of light. They introduce the concept of "holes" in atoms moving faster than electrons, proposing that while electrons move slowly, the holes can travel at light speed.
- Another analogy is presented comparing electricity to a conga line, where the signal moves faster than the individual carriers due to the push from one to another.
- A later reply emphasizes the distinction between the speed of electrons and the speed of signals in wires, providing a formula for signal velocity that relates to the speed of light, referencing the permeability and permittivity of free space.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
The discussion features multiple competing views regarding the nature of signal speed in electrical wires and fiber optics, with no consensus reached on the interpretations of these speeds or the underlying mechanisms.
Contextual Notes
Participants express various assumptions about the behavior of electrons and holes, and the discussion includes unresolved aspects regarding the definitions and implications of signal speed in different materials.
Who May Find This Useful
This discussion may be of interest to individuals exploring concepts of electrical signal propagation, those studying physics or electrical engineering, and newcomers seeking clarification on the behavior of signals in different mediums.