Electric sinusoidal field on a hydrogen atom - Quantum Mechanics

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The discussion revolves around a quantum mechanics problem involving a hydrogen atom subjected to an electric sinusoidal field along the z-axis. The original poster is tasked with finding the state of the system at a time greater than zero using time-dependent perturbation theory, specifically focusing on transitions between the ground state and the first excited state.

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate the perturbation term in the Hamiltonian and the coefficients of the linear combination of states. They raise questions about the correctness of their approach and notation, particularly regarding the subscripts and the integral limits for the coefficients.

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The discussion includes considerations about the notation used for the coefficients and the need to clarify the definitions of certain terms, such as the integral limits and the meaning of specific subscripts in the context of the problem.

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Homework Statement
some doubts to clarify
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Hamiltonian, spherical harmonic functions of hydrogen atom
Hello to everyone. I have some doubts about one problem of quantum mechanics.

Consider an hydrogen atom under the action of a electric field ##E(t)= E_0 sin(\omega t)## along ##z## axis. We can put ##\frac{|E_2-E_1|}{\hbar} = \omega_0##, where##E_1##, ##E_2## are respectively the ground state and first excited energy states.

If the system is in a ground state for ##t=0##, then using dependent time perturbation theory on the first order, find the state of a system at generic ##t>0##.
Consider only transition for n=1 to ##n=2## states.


My attempt.

I need to calculate the coefficient ##W_{ij}=<\psi_i | H' |\psi_j>## where ##H' = -eE(t)z## is a perturbation term in the hamiltonian and ##|\psi_i> = |\psi_{nlm}>##. We have four states and sixteen terms to calculate, respectively for the states ##\psi_{100}, \psi_{200}, \psi_{210}, \psi_{211}, \psi_{21-1}##.

After this work, because the dependance of time, I can assume that the coefficients of the linear combination of the states are functions of time and for compute these term ##c_ni = -\frac{i}{\hbar}\int W_{ij}exp(-i\omega_{ni}t)dt##.


Then, the state is ##|\psi>= c_{100}(t)exp(-iE_{100}t/\hbar)|\psi_{100}>+c_{200}(t)exp(-iE_{200}t/\hbar)|\psi_{200}>+c_{210}(t)exp(-iE_{210}t/\hbar)|\psi_{210}>+c_{211}(t)exp(-iE_{211}t/\hbar)|\psi_{211}>+c_{21-1}(t)exp(-iE_{21-1}t/\hbar)|\psi_{21-1}>##


Is this correct?
I'm sorry for my poor english.
 
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Some suggestions? Is my attempt correct?
Thanks in advance.
 
Overall, I think you have the correct approach.

damarkk said:
I can assume that the coefficients of the linear combination of the states are functions of time and for compute these term ##c_ni = -\frac{i}{\hbar}\int W_{ij}exp(-i\omega_{ni}t)dt##.
On the left side, I think you meant to type ##c_{ni}## instead of ##c_ni##.

Am I right that the subscript ##i## refers to the initial state ##|\psi_{100}\rangle## and the subscript ##n## refers to one of the states ##|\psi_{100}\rangle, |\psi_{200}\rangle, |\psi_{211}\rangle, |\psi_{210}\rangle,|\psi_{21-1}\rangle##?

On the right side, you have ##W_{ij}##. Do you have the correct subscripts here?

Also, you didn't tell us what the notation ##\omega_{ni}## represents. Check the sign of the argument of the exponential function.

What are the upper and lower limits for the integral in the expression for ##c_{ni}## ?

Your formula for ##c_{ni}## appears to be the formula for obtaining the first-order contribution to the expansion coefficient. So, I would write the left side as ##c_{ni}^{(1)}##, where the superscript ##(1)## denotes the first-order contribution.

Up through first order, the expansion coefficients will be ##c_{ni} = c_{ni}^{(0)}+ c_{ni}^{(1)}##, where ##c_{ni}^{(0)}## is the the zeroth-order approximation. From the setup of the problem, you should be able to deduce the values of the zeroth-order terms ##c_{ni}^{(0)}## for the various states ##|\psi_n \rangle##.


damarkk said:
Then, the state is ##|\psi>= c_{100}(t)exp(-iE_{100}t/\hbar)|\psi_{100}>+c_{200}(t)exp(-iE_{200}t/\hbar)|\psi_{200}>+c_{210}(t)exp(-iE_{210}t/\hbar)|\psi_{210}>+c_{211}(t)exp(-iE_{211}t/\hbar)|\psi_{211}>+c_{21-1}(t)exp(-iE_{21-1}t/\hbar)|\psi_{21-1}>##
This looks right.
 
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Note that you have to calculate the actual value of the ##c(t)##.
 
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