Electrical Breakdown: What Causes Sparks, Lightning and St. Elmo's Fire?

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The discussion explores the mechanisms behind electrical phenomena like sparks, lightning, and St. Elmo's fire, presenting two main theories. The first theory suggests that stray electrons are accelerated by a potential difference, leading to an ionization cascade in the air. The second theory posits that a sufficiently high potential difference can directly ionize the air, generating free charges that create a current. The consensus leans towards the second explanation, likening it to dielectric breakdown in capacitors. Understanding these mechanisms is crucial for comprehending electrical discharges in various contexts.
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What's the mechanism behind things like sparks, lightning, St. Elmo's fire, etc.? I've heard two different explanations, both of which seem reasonable:

1) Stray electrons are accelerated by the potential difference created between eg the thundercloud and the ground. These electrons attain enough energy to ionize air molecules, creating more stray electrons which ionize more air molecules, and so on, creating an avalanche of electrons.

2) The potential difference is great enough to ionize the air (without needing say stray electrons), creating free charges which can then be accelerated by the potential difference to create a current.

Which one is right?
 
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I think it is the second one because it sounds similar to a dielectric breakdown in a capacitor.
 
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What's the mechanism behind things like sparks, lightning, St. Elmo's fire, etc.? I've heard two different explanations, both of which seem reasonable:

1) Stray electrons are accelerated by the potential difference created between eg the thundercloud and the ground. These electrons attain enough energy to ionize air molecules, creating more stray electrons which ionize more air molecules, and so on, creating an avalanche of electrons.

2) The potential difference is great enough to ionize the air (without needing say stray electrons), creating free charges which can then be accelerated by the potential difference to create a current.

Which one is right?

Please read my response in this thread:

https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=744778

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