Electricity and Electric field

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The discussion focuses on calculating the electric field outside a charged sphere using Gauss's Law and integrating charge density. The key equations include the total charge enclosed by a Gaussian surface and the relationship between electric field intensity and charge density. Participants emphasize the necessity of performing a triple integral to accurately determine the total charge for regions where the charge density is non-uniform, specifically for radii greater than the sphere's radius. The correct approach involves understanding volume charge density in spherical coordinates.

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  • Understanding of Gauss's Law
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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


gauss law
q=charge on sphere
Q=total charge enclosed by gaussian surface
Q=alpha/r x (4/3 pi r^3-4/3 pi R^3) + q

The Attempt at a Solution



EA=Q/ε[/B]
E=Q/(Aε)
now
for E to be independent of r,

alpha/r x 4/3 pi r^3 + q = 1/(4)(pi)(r^2)
alpha x 4/3 pi r^2 +q= 1/(4)(pi)(r^2)
q=(4 alpha pi r^2)/3 - 1/(4)(pi)(r^2)

q=(16 alpha pi^2 r^4 - 3)/(4)(pi)(r^2)

but this is not even close to the answer
 

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You need to do an integral to find the total charge inside the Gaussian surface for ##r > R## because the charge density is not uniform in that region.
 
kuruman said:
You need to do an integral to find the total charge inside the Gaussian surface for ##r > R## because the charge density is not uniform in that region.
but why we need to do that since we are only seeing the electric field intensity outside the sphere
 
How would you find how much charge is in the region ##R < r' <r## where ##r'## is a radius between the surface of the sphere and the Gaussian surface of radius ##r##? You cannot multiply the volume by the charge density, as you have done, because the amount of charge per unit volume decreases continuously as ##r'## increases.
 
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Q=q+integral(R to r-R)[alpha/r 4/3 pi r^3]

but how do i get dr on side of integral?
 
Suyash Singh said:
Q=q+integral(R to r-R)[alpha/r 4/3 pi r^3]

but how do i get dr on side of integral?
You started incorrectly. For volume charge density ##\rho = \alpha/r##, $$Q=\int \frac{\alpha}{r}dV.$$
What is ##dV## in spherical coordinates? Note: This is a triple integral. If you don't remember, see "Integration and differentiation in spherical coordinates" here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spherical_coordinate_system
 
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