Electricity storage/delivery system

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The discussion centers on the challenges and potential solutions related to electricity storage and delivery systems, particularly focusing on the limitations of current technologies like batteries and exploring alternative energy sources and methods for efficient energy management.

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  • One participant questions the main obstacles to developing efficient electricity storage systems capable of handling massive amounts of energy at mega/gigawatt levels.
  • Another participant suggests that future energy sources could include wind, solar, waves, and the Earth's magnetic field, proposing a switching network instead of relying solely on batteries.
  • A third participant points out that pumped hydroelectric systems are currently the most used energy storage method.
  • One participant claims that while batteries are efficient (upwards of 90%), their bulkiness and cost are significant drawbacks.
  • Another participant agrees that pumped-hydroelectric systems are not very efficient but notes that they can be economically viable due to the cost differences between base and peak power.
  • A later reply acknowledges that while batteries are not currently gigawatt-class storage devices, there is potential for future battery technologies to achieve this capability.

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Participants express differing views on the efficiency and practicality of current electricity storage methods, particularly batteries and pumped hydroelectric systems. There is no consensus on the best approach or the main obstacles to overcome.

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Participants mention various assumptions regarding the efficiency of different storage methods and the economic implications of energy consumption patterns, but these assumptions remain unresolved within the discussion.

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Inefficient electricity storage devices have been with us for well over 100 years and we still have not developed a system that will absorb, hold and deliver on-demand massive amounts at mega/gigawatt levels. What is/are the main obstacle(s) to the development of a workable and efficient system for commercial and industrial, as well as household, electricity storage and on-demand delivery beyond the simple variations of the inefficient storage batteries we have been using for all those years?

Should I also ask the Physics board? Thanks for all informed answers.
 
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wind, sun, waves and the Earth's magnetic field as future energy is what i think will happen. pop science now but eventually it will work out, instead of trying to store it with batterys maybe a switching network, you can take as much energy as you need.

i'd guess the goal should be to minimize energy loss during conversion, if done right it should curb lots of the electo-chem/petrol buyproduct and landfill crap. instead of planning for the next 100 years maybe the next 500 instead. if i can buy a styrafoam cup that won't breakdown for 50 years then this should be easy right?

edit: like powering your watch via static electricity when your walking across a carpet, the sources won't change but how people use them will.
 
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Have a look to http://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~matti/ise2grp/energystorage_report/storage.html

The most used energy storage today is pumped hydroelectric.
 
Actually, batteries are very efficient. Upwards of 90%. the main problem with batteries is that they are bulky and expensive.

Pumped-hydroelectric isn't every efficient, but because of the the variable nature of energy consumption, it often makes good economic sense.
 
Agree, isn't very efficient, yes, but base power is usually cheaper than peak power, so you can accept some inefficiencies.

And batteries aren't gigawat-class storage devices.

Regards.
 
A battery is not a gigawat-class storage device, but batteries might be. :)
 

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