Electromagnet magnetic field strength

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around the magnetic field strength of an electromagnet, specifically focusing on the application of Ampère's law and the assumptions made regarding the magnetic field's uniformity and the geometry of the magnet.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of Ampère's law and the derivation of the magnetic field strength formula. Questions arise about the assumptions made, such as ignoring the core and the uniformity of the magnetic field in the gap. Some participants express uncertainty about how to approach the problem, particularly regarding the integration involved with tapered and untapered magnets.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants seeking clarification on the steps taken and the assumptions involved. Some guidance has been offered regarding the similarities between tapered and untapered magnets, but no consensus or resolution has been reached yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the complexities of the problem, including the implications of ignoring certain components of the magnet and the need for a clear understanding of the geometry involved in the magnetic field calculations.

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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


##\oint_{C} Bd\ell = \mu I_{enc}, B_{normal}## continuous across boundary, ##H_{parallel}## continuous across boundary

The Attempt at a Solution


$$\oint_{C} Bd\ell = \mu I_{enc} \rightarrow B = \frac{\mu NI}{2\pi r}$$

Any help much appreciated. How should I proceed?
 
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How did you do the "->" step?
Where do you run into problems with the other parts?
 
mfb said:
How did you do the "->" step?
Where do you run into problems with the other parts?
I just don't know how to even get started really. I did the "->" just by applying amperes law, ignoring the ends of the core (because you could just take a line integral to avoid them).
 
... and ignoring the core, and assuming B is uniform in the gap. That is fine, but you should be aware of assumptions like that.

The untapered magnet works in the same way as the tapered magnet, you just have fewer variables (which makes it a bit easier).
 
mfb said:
... and ignoring the core, and assuming B is uniform in the gap. That is fine, but you should be aware of assumptions like that.

The untapered magnet works in the same way as the tapered magnet, you just have fewer variables (which makes it a bit easier).
So what should I do? :S
 
The same thing as for the tapered magnet.
 
mfb said:
The same thing as for the tapered magnet.
Please could you give me a clue as to what integral I would have to do? I'm struggling to see how I am meant to take account of the tapering in an integral amperean loop...?
 
It is literally exactly the same as the exercise you solved already, just with different letters because the ends are not tapered.
 
mfb said:
It is literally exactly the same as the exercise you solved already, just with different letters because the ends are not tapered.
I haven't solved the tapered case? I don't know how to..?
 

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