Electromagnetism - Lorentz Force

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The problem involves a charged particle in a uniform electric field and a uniform magnetic field, requiring the derivation of the equations of motion for the particle. The context is within the subject area of electromagnetism, specifically focusing on the Lorentz force and motion in electromagnetic fields.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the equations of motion derived from the Lorentz force and express uncertainty about integrating these equations. There is mention of the equations resembling those of a simple harmonic oscillator, but with a non-zero right-hand side, leading to confusion about the next steps. Some participants also share their attempts and express a desire for confirmation of their approaches.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their attempts to solve the equations of motion. Some have found similar equations but are unsure about how to proceed. There is a collaborative atmosphere, with participants offering support and expressing relief at finding others in similar situations of uncertainty.

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Participants are working under the constraints of homework rules, which may limit the extent of guidance they can receive. There is a focus on ensuring that the derivation of the equations is correct before proceeding further.

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Homework Statement



A particle of charge q starts from rest at the origin of coordinates in a region where there is a uniform electric field of strenth E parallel to the x-axis, and a uniform magnetic field B parallel to the z-axis.

Find the equations of motion, and solve them to show that the coordinates of the particle at a time t later will be:

x = (E/B*omega)*(1 - cos(omega*t))

y = - (E/B*omega)*(omega*t - sin(omega*t))

z = 0

where omega = q*B/m. (The path of the circle is a cycloid.)

Homework Equations



The parametric equation of a cycloid:

x = constant*(1 - cos(omega*t))

y = constant*(omega*t - sin(omega*t))

The force acting on the particle:

F = q*E + q*vxB

The Attempt at a Solution



I've done some work on this problem and so far the equations of motion that I've got for the particle are as follows:

1) F(x) = q*E + q*v(y)*B -> x[double-dot] = q*E/m + omega*y[dot]

2) F(y) = -q*v(x)*B -> y[double-dot] = -q*B*x[dot]

I've tried integrating these equations once (eg. integrate 2)) and then substituting this into the other equation. This then gave me:

x[double-dot] + omega^2*x = E*B

And this is where I'm stuck. This has the form of a simple harmonic oscillator, except that the r.h.s. isn't zero, so I can't solve it. Also, I'm not even sure if everything that I've done so far is correct.

Any help on this would be very much appreciated!
 
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I found the same equations of motion but i kinda stuck there as well. I`ll check it again tomorrow :)
 
Thanks, that would be really helpful! I'm glad to know that I don't seem to be a complete moron though, or that I've overlooked some vital detail that will make the whole thing ridiculously easy.
 
Solving the differential equation x[double-dot]+x*ω^2=qE/m (1)

X=X1+X2=(c1*cosωt+c2*sinωt)+qE/(m*ω^2) , c1,c2=constants

X1 is the solution of the : x[double-dot]+x*ω^2=0
X2 is a "special" solution that satisfies (1).

I think you can solve that now.
x(0)=0
x[dot](0)=0
 
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