Electron Configuration of Excited State

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The discussion revolves around determining the electron configuration of the first excited state of the tin atom (Sn) and analyzing the allowed total angular momentum values for this excited state. The original poster notes that the ground state configuration is ##[Kr]4d^{10}5s^25p^2##.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants explore the concept of excited states and the transition of electrons to higher energy orbitals. There is discussion about the potential configurations for the first excited state, with some suggesting configurations involving the ##6s## and ##5d## orbitals. Questions arise regarding the validity of using selection rules and the implications for determining the first excited state.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights and corrections regarding the determination of the first excited state and the calculation of total angular momentum. There is recognition of the need to consider LS coupling and the exploration of possible values for total angular momentum based on the configurations discussed.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the first excited state may not be reachable by a dipole transition and that the contributions to total angular momentum must consider both filled and unfilled subshells. The discussion also touches on the applicability of LS coupling versus jj-coupling for the tin atom.

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Homework Statement



An exercise examining the tin atom (Sn). Tin has a ground state electron configuration of ##[Kr]4d^{10}5s^25p^2##.

a) Write down the electronic configuration of the first excited state.

b) Illustrate with a vector diagram the allowed total angular momentum ##J## values for this excited state.

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The Attempt at a Solution



Hi all,

For a) As I understand it, excited states for atoms are achieved when an atom in the outermost shell makes a transition to an atomic orbital with greater energy, according to the selection rule of ##ΔL=±1##. However I'm unsure as to what would constitute the first excited state.

I think it would be one of the two following:

(1) ##[Kr]4d^{10}5s^25p^16s^1##

(2) ##[Kr]4d^{10}5s^25p^15d^1##

The ##5d## level has a higher energy than that of the ##6s##, so perhaps (1) is the first excited state?

For b) I'm not entirely sure about it, but I presume that the correct answer for a) must be determined first.
 
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samjohnny said:
For a) As I understand it, excited states for atoms are achieved when an atom in the outermost shell makes a transition to an atomic orbital with greater energy, according to the selection rule of ##ΔL=±1##.
Careful here. When considering the excited states by themselves, do not refer to selection rules. The first excited state of an atom may not be reachable by a dipole transition from the ground state. The best example is hydrogen, where the first excited state is 2s.

samjohnny said:
However I'm unsure as to what would constitute the first excited state.
The rule that works most of the time is to take a valence electron and put it in the next highest energy orbital.

samjohnny said:
I think it would be one of the two following:

(1) ##[Kr]4d^{10}5s^25p^16s^1##

(2) ##[Kr]4d^{10}5s^25p^15d^1##

The ##5d## level has a higher energy than that of the ##6s##, so perhaps (1) is the first excited state?
Yes.

samjohnny said:
For b) I'm not entirely sure about it, but I presume that the correct answer for a) must be determined first.
Yes.
 
DrClaude said:
Careful here. When considering the excited states by themselves, do not refer to selection rules. The first excited state of an atom may not be reachable by a dipole transition from the ground state. The best example is hydrogen, where the first excited state is 2s.The rule that works most of the time is to take a valence electron and put it in the next highest energy orbital.Yes.Yes.

I see. Then the electron configuration of the first excited state would be: ##[Kr]4d^{10}5s^25p^16s^1##.

Then for part b), since the total angular momentum of an atom is given by that of its outer electron, the total ##J## will be defined by the single outer electron in the ##6s## orbital. Therefore, we have ##l=5## and ##s=\frac{1}{2}##. And therefore the total angular momentum values we have are ##j=s±l=\frac{11}{2}## and ##\frac{9}{2}##. Therefore ##J=\sqrt{j(j+1)}ħ=\frac{143}{4}ħ## and ##\frac{121}{4}ħ##. I have a feeling this isn't right..
 
samjohnny said:
Then for part b), since the total angular momentum of an atom is given by that of its outer electron, the total ##J## will be defined by the single outer electron in the ##6s## orbital.
This is not correct. It is only filled (sub)shells that have an overall contribution of 0 to the total orbital angular momentum and spin. Here, there are two subshells that are not filled.

samjohnny said:
Therefore, we have ##l=5##
?
 
DrClaude said:
This is not correct. It is only filled (sub)shells that have an overall contribution of 0 to the total orbital angular momentum and spin. Here, there are two subshells that are not filled.?

Ah OK, so both the ##5p## and ##6s## shells have contribution to the total angular momentum. And I went completely off track with ##l##. For the ##6s## orbital ##l=0## and ##s=\frac{1}{2}##. And so would that mean that ##j=s+l=\frac{1}{2}##, and so ##J=\sqrt{j(j+1)}=\frac{3}{4}ħ##?

And for ##5p##, ##l=1## therefore ##j=\frac{3}{2}## and ##\frac{1}{2}##. So ##J=\sqrt{j(j+1)}=\frac{15}{4}ħ## and ##\frac{3}{4}ħ##. Am I on the right track?
 
samjohnny said:
Ah OK, so both the ##5p## and ##6s## shells have contribution to the total angular momentum. And I went completely off track with ##l##. For the ##6s## orbital ##l=0## and ##s=\frac{1}{2}##. And so would that mean that ##j=s+l=\frac{1}{2}##, and so ##J=\sqrt{j(j+1)}=\frac{3}{4}ħ##?

And for ##5p##, ##l=1## therefore ##j=\frac{3}{2}## and ##\frac{1}{2}##. So ##J=\sqrt{j(j+1)}=\frac{15}{4}ħ## and ##\frac{3}{4}ħ##. Am I on the right track?
For Sn, LS-coupling should apply, so this is not the correct way to go about it.
 
DrClaude said:
For Sn, LS-coupling should apply, so this is not the correct way to go about it.

Ok, then I'll implement LS coupling as found on this page. And so let ##L_1## be the orbital angular momentum of the ##5p## electron, and ##L_2## that of the ##6s## electron. Then ##L=L_1+L_2=1+0=1##. And similarly for the spins: ##S=\frac{1}{2}±\frac{1}{2}=1## or ##0##. Therefore, ##J=L+S=1## or ##2##.

I wonder if the atomic nucleus might be perhaps too large for this type of coupling?
 
samjohnny said:
Ok, then I'll implement LS coupling as found on this page. And so let ##L_1## be the orbital angular momentum of the ##5p## electron, and ##L_2## that of the ##6s## electron. Then ##L=L_1+L_2=1+0=1##. And similarly for the spins: ##S=\frac{1}{2}±\frac{1}{2}=1## or ##0##.
That is correct, but
samjohnny said:
Therefore, ##J=L+S=1## or ##2##.
is not complete. You have to find all possible J's for each combination of L and S.

samjohnny said:
I wonder if the atomic nucleus might be perhaps too large for this type of coupling?
Tin is at the limit where LS coupling applies, and it could be argued that jj-coupling should be used. I've checked the NIST website, and they use LS term symbols for Sn.
 
DrClaude said:
That is correct, but

is not complete. You have to find all possible J's for each combination of L and S.Tin is at the limit where LS coupling applies, and it could be argued that jj-coupling should be used. I've checked the NIST website, and they use LS term symbols for Sn.

So including all possible ##Js## gives ##J=0,1,2##?
 
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samjohnny said:
So including all possible ##Js## gives ##J=0,1,2##?
You found that L = 1 and S = 0 or 1. That gives you two terms, 1P and 3P. Each term has its own possible set of J values.
 

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