Electron spin - energy difference between split levels?

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The discussion revolves around the energy difference between split states of an electron in a magnetic field, specifically focusing on an electron with orbital quantum number l=0. The original poster has calculated an interaction energy and is seeking clarification on how to determine the energy difference between the split states.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the relationship between interaction energy and electron spin states, questioning whether the spin up and spin down states have the same energy. There is also discussion about the significance of the variable E0 and how to appropriately set up equations before substituting values.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some providing equations and others questioning the assumptions made regarding E0. There is a recognition of the importance of setting up equations correctly, and while some calculations have been attempted, there is no explicit consensus on the correct approach yet.

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The original poster notes a lack of relevant information in their textbook and course materials, which may be influencing their understanding of the problem. There is also mention of daily quizzes that may impact the urgency of resolving this question.

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I found the interaction energy U of an electron in an atom with orbital quantum number l=0 with a uniform 2.00-T magnetic field to be 1.159E-4 eV, now it asks what is the energy difference between the two split states?

We have short 3-point quizzes each day before lecture just to make sure that we read the section in the book because we will start talking about this new material in class. However, I don't see anything with energy difference information in this section in the book or in the MasteringPhysics side note.

The only thing close to is that there is an example for a 3p level of a sodium atom where you find energy E = hc/lambda of the two photonsbut then would my lambda be? I don't think that helps either.

I'd appreciate any help, thanks!
 
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Was the interaction energy you found due to the electron spin? Does the spin up state have the same energy as the spin down state?
 
Yeah... MasteringPhysics is amazingly bad.

The split states:
When you have an electron in an atom, it has some energy E_0 (lets say). In a magnetic field, because of the intrinsic spins of the electrons, they can either gain or lose the interaction energy with the magnetic field (in your case \Delta E \approx 1E-4), thus the final split energies will be E = E_0 - \Delta E and E = E_0 + \Delta E, what's the difference in energies between those two split states?
 
Ah, thank you for those equations. But what is my E0? Using deltaE = 1.159*10^4, I just picked a random number for E0 (I used 5) then calculated 5 - deltaE and 5 + deltaE and took the difference, and I got the correct answer, 2.318*10-4. I take it this is probably no the scientific way to do it. What is?
 
mbradar2 said:
Ah, thank you for those equations. But what is my E0? Using deltaE = 1.159*10^4, I just picked a random number for E0 (I used 5) then calculated 5 - deltaE and 5 + deltaE and took the difference, and I got the correct answer, 2.318*10-4. I take it this is probably no the scientific way to do it. What is?
Great question. Especially in physics, its best to set up your equations before plugging in values. This way you can see what aspects of the equations 'drop out' or cancel. Using the equations I gave you, try solving for the difference in energy levels (i.e. before plugging values in). See what you find
 

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