Electronic circuit/inductor problems

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The discussion revolves around issues encountered while building an FM Radio transmitter, specifically focusing on the behavior of inductors in the circuit. Participants explore the challenges of measuring inductance and the implications of using different wire gauges in the construction of inductors.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant reports that their inductor appears to behave like a normal piece of wire, failing to show expected voltage across it when tested with an AC signal generator.
  • Another participant suggests that the inductance may be very low (less than 0.1μH) at the operating frequency (around 100MHz), prompting a discussion about reactance and its comparison to series resistance.
  • A participant raises a concern about the possibility of insufficient removal of enamel from the wire, which could prevent proper electrical connection.
  • Another participant argues that if the enamel is still on the ends, the wire would be an open circuit rather than exhibiting low impedance.
  • One participant recommends double-checking connections and components, ensuring they are within specified ranges, and considering alternative wire gauges or inductor designs for troubleshooting.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the cause of the issue, with some focusing on the inductor's construction and others on the measurement setup. No consensus is reached regarding the specific problem or solution.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the importance of using the correct wire gauge and ensuring proper connections, but the discussion does not resolve the underlying issues related to the inductor's performance or measurement techniques.

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I'm in the opening stages of a project, part of which is building an FM Radio transmitter.
I am using the circuit found here (call it site1), which is the original of the circuit found here (site2).

On site2 is a method of making the inductors required (5 turn air coil, 4mm inner diameter with 28AWG enamel coated copper wire). I didn't have 28AWG so attempted to use 24AWG wire.

Then, to find the frequency I was transmitting at, I attempted to find the value of the inductors. Putting the inductor in series with a resistor and an AC signal generator, I could not find, at any frequency/current/voltage, any voltage across the inductor; It essentially seemed to be acting as a normal piece of wire.

I know my measuring equipment is not faulty; I've tested it all. I've used up to 2A (The max I could find on any of the equipment in my University Lab), added turns and even put a very powerful magnet on the inside of the coil to no avail.

Can anyone see a reason for this not to work?
Appreciation in advanced.
 
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If this inductor is for operating at around 100Mhz, it will be a very low value of inductance. What frequency are you using for your measurement (and what value of resistor)? From your figures, it seems your inductance will be much less than 0.1μH. You can work out what the reactance of that would be at the frequency you are using for measurement - how does that compare with the series resistance value you are using? What measurement of volts across the L would you expect from this?
 
You scraped the enamel off of the wire right? I had a problem one time where I hadn't removed the enamel enough and it wasn't making an electrical connection.
 
But with enamel still on the ends, the wire would be an open circuit - not a low impedance (like a "piece of wire").
 


I would first suggest double-checking the connections and components in the circuit to ensure everything is properly connected and functioning. It is also important to make sure that the components are within the specified range for the circuit, such as using the correct wire gauge for the inductors. Additionally, it may be helpful to consult with experts or other sources to troubleshoot the issue and determine if there are any known problems with the circuit design or components being used. Experimenting with different wire gauges or inductor designs may also be worth considering. Overall, careful analysis and troubleshooting are key in resolving electronic circuit problems.
 

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