Elongation Calculation for Non-Uniform Forces: Which Force Should Be Used?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the elongation of a rod subjected to forces, specifically addressing the implications of using uniform versus non-uniform forces in the calculations. Participants are exploring how to properly account for the forces applied to the rod in the elongation formula.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are questioning whether to use the force F or 2F in the elongation calculation, particularly in cases where forces are unequal. There is a focus on understanding the implications of equilibrium and acceleration in the context of the forces applied to the rod.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants sharing insights and clarifying misunderstandings. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of force F when both sides of the rod are pulled, and there is an exploration of how to visualize forces at a cut in the material.

Contextual Notes

Participants are considering the effects of unequal forces and the resulting acceleration of the rod, which may influence the calculation of elongation. The discussion reflects a need to clarify assumptions about the forces acting on the rod.

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How to calculate the elongation when we know we all other parameters?

Two sides of a rod is pulled by two forces of F Newtons in opposite directions. What should we consider F or 2F in the equation? I used 2F and got wrong answer as per the book. But, if it is true, why should be use F only? If the forces are unequal which force should be use to calculate the elongation?
 
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if the forces are unequal the rod will accelerate.
 
You are right, I missed the point, it was my blind spot. Thanks so much for making me realize that. Should we use 2F or F to calculate the elongation?
 
Hi manjuvenamma,

We use F is there is a force F on both sides. And if it is being stretched there will have to be a force pulling on both sides.
 
In your head,, think of taking a cut through the material. At the cut, draw in the forces on each surface necessary for each of the two pieces to remain in equilibrium (no acceleration). The forces that you have drawn are the forces experienced by the material at the location of the cut. Are these forces F or 2F? Do these forces depend on the location of your cut?
 

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