EM wave field strength and energy

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the relationship between the energy of an electromagnetic (EM) wave and the peak values of its electric and magnetic fields. Participants explore the formulas related to energy density in EM waves, particularly in the context of constant wavelength and amplitude.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about a formula to determine the peak electric or magnetic field value from the total energy of an EM wave.
  • Another participant states that the energy density of an EM wave is given by the sum of the electric and magnetic energy densities, noting that the magnetic component is often negligible compared to the electric component.
  • A different participant argues that in a vacuum, the energy density is equally distributed between the electric and magnetic components, providing specific formulas for each and relating them through the speed of light.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus on the best approach to relate the total energy of the EM wave to the peak field values, as participants present differing views on the significance of the magnetic component.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve the assumptions regarding the conditions under which the magnetic component can be neglected or the implications of energy distribution in different media.

Usaf Moji
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Another noobish question: Let's say there is an electromagnetic wave of constant wavelength and constant peak amplitude that travels a known distance. Let's say that we also know the total energy of this EM wave. Is there some formula that can tell us what the peak value of the electric field is (or the peak value of the magnetic field, it doesn't matter which)?

All responses appreciated.
 
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The energy density of an EM wave is given by [tex]\epsilon E^{2}+ \mu H^{2}[/tex] where [tex]\epsilon[/tex] is the permittivity, [tex]\mu[/tex] the permeability, E the electric field amplitude, and H the magnetic field amplitude. For the majority of cases, the magnetic component is much less than the electric component, B ~ E/c, and can be neglected.
 
Actually, in an EM wave, in vacuum at least, the energy density is equally distributed between the electric and magnetic portions of the wave. The electric and magnetic energy densities in vacuum are

[tex]u_E = \frac{\epsilon_0 E^2}{2}[/tex]

[tex]u_B = \frac{B^2}{2 \mu_0}[/tex]

In an EM wave, B = E/c and

[tex]c = \frac{1}{\sqrt{\epsilon_0 \mu_0}}[/tex]

which allow you to show that [itex]u_E = u_B[/itex].
 
Thank you Andy and jtbell, that was very helpful.
 

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