EM Wave Reflection: Why Parabolic Reflectors Differ from Mirrors

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the differences in reflection properties between parabolic reflectors used for microwaves and traditional mirrors. It explores the underlying reasons for these differences, including surface texture and material properties, as well as the implications for various wavelengths of electromagnetic radiation.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that parabolic antennas have rough surfaces that lead to diffuse reflection, while mirrors have smooth surfaces that facilitate specular reflection.
  • Another participant questions why scattering occurs in the dish for light but not for microwaves used in communication.
  • A different participant suggests that if the surface roughness is small compared to the wavelength, the wave does not "see" the roughness, which could explain the differing behaviors.
  • It is mentioned that different wavelengths interact differently with materials, with some materials being transparent to visible light but effective reflectors in the infrared spectrum.
  • One participant inquires about the terminology related to the reflective properties at specific frequencies, referencing the index of refraction and Fresnel equations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the scattering of light versus microwaves and the implications of surface roughness, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain without a clear consensus.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about surface texture and material properties that may not be fully defined, as well as the dependence on wavelength, which could affect the interpretations of reflection behavior.

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Why do parabolic reflectors for microwaves (e.g. satellite TV) not reflect light like a mirror?

Why do things like spoons, which are presumably conductive, reflect light?

Thank you
 
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Satellite antennas are typically coated with paint and have a very rough surface, which scatters the light in many different directions (diffuse reflection) instead of being very smooth like an optical mirror is. Spoons are much more smooth and do a much better job at reflecting light. Much more of the light is reflected at the same angle of incidence that it hits the surface at. (specular reflection)
 
I suppose my question is, if the dish is scattering light, why is it not scattering the microwaves used for communication?
 
If the surface roughness is small when compared to the wavelength the wave doesn't "see" it.

Another factor is that different wavelengths react differently - many materials that are transparent to visible light (e.g., some clear plastics) are great reflectors in the infrared.

Both effects could be used.
 
Thank you. What is the name for this... 'reflective coefficient at a given frequency'?
 
oneamp said:
Thank you. What is the name for this... 'reflective coefficient at a given frequency'?

In optics it is the index of refraction plus the Fresnel equations:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fresnel_equations

The same principles apply to all electromagnetic radiation, but the terminology may vary.
 
Thank you
 

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