Energy and first law thermodynamics help

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The discussion focuses on preparing for a thermodynamics exam centered on energy and the first law of thermodynamics, specifically within closed and open systems. Participants emphasize the importance of understanding fundamental concepts and practicing problem-solving techniques. Key strategies include visualizing problems, identifying given parameters, and applying relevant equations. The conversation highlights the necessity of engaging with practice problems to build confidence and competence in thermodynamic calculations.

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  • Understanding of the first law of thermodynamics
  • Familiarity with thermodynamic properties
  • Knowledge of closed and open systems in thermodynamics
  • Ability to interpret steam tables for energy content
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  • Study the principles of energy conservation in fluid systems
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Hey guys,
Have a thermodynamics exam coming in the next few days up based on the following topics. Energy and first law, Thermodynamic properties, First law: closed systems, First law: open systems/specific heat. When I have taken a look at the past exams it has been all calculations and therefore I won't need to worry about learning specific definitions. However, I'm having a really hard time getting my head around all of these questions and I literally have no clue where to start. Since the exam will be primarily calculation based (like the questions shown below) is there any process too going about these problems that will literally work for any question? I'll literally do anything if someone can fully teach me how to learn this stuff.
Thanks

 
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You need to do practice problems (after understanding the fundamentals outlined in your text). Are you saying that you don't know how to solve the two sample problems you showed?
 
civilengoo said:
is there any process too going about these problems that will literally work for any question?

Sure there is.

Draw a picture , or annotate the one they gave you.
Then ask yourself
"What parameters did they give me a number for?"
"What equation do i know that uses those parameters?"
Write those equations out with the numbers they gave you
and you'll see that whoever wrote the test question wants you to use the equations.

Both questions look easily solvable to me
first question gives volume and pressure of fluid and fraction of it that's vapor so you know masses of liquid and vapor, and from steam table their respective energy contents

second one gives a mass flow rate and temperatures hence rate of energy transfer, and you know energy is conserved,

so where's the problem?

old jim
 
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Chestermiller said:
You need to do practice problems (after understanding the fundamentals outlined in your text). Are you saying that you don't know how to solve the two sample problems you showed?
Yes, I have no clue the process of going about either of these problems.
 
jim hardy said:
Sure there is.

Draw a picture , or annotate the one they gave you.
Then ask yourself
"What parameters did they give me a number for?"
"What equation do i know that uses those parameters?"
Write those equations out with the numbers they gave you
and you'll see that whoever wrote the test question wants you to use the equations.

Both questions look easily solvable to me
first question gives volume and pressure of fluid and fraction of it that's vapor so you know masses of liquid and vapor, and from steam table their respective energy contents

second one gives a mass flow rate and temperatures hence rate of energy transfer, and you know energy is conserved,

so where's the problem?

old jim
I just have a hard time thinking of the respective equations I should be using, and what exactly the question is asking
 
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You are also required to post your best efforts at solving the problems. Just saying "I have no idea, teach me" is not allowed here.

Please repost one question at a time in the HH forums, and show the Relevant Equations and your best efforts at the solution. That is how you will do the best and learn the best as a student. Thank you.
 
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