Energy conditions and non-physical phenomena

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The discussion centers on the implications of general relativity regarding the speed of light and the creation of energy from empty space. Participants explore whether these phenomena are direct consequences of general relativity or if they stem from the energy conditions necessary for solutions to Einstein's equations that align with observations.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether the inability to exceed the speed of light is a consequence of general relativity, suggesting that definitions of "exceeding the speed of light" need clarification.
  • Others propose that the assertion that no energy is created from empty space also requires a definition of what is meant by "no energy is created from empty space."
  • It is noted that locally, nothing can exceed the speed of light, which some participants argue follows from the properties of 4-momentum being non-spacelike.
  • One participant mentions that the expectation of not generating energy from a vacuum is related to the divergence of the stress-energy tensor and the Einstein field equations.
  • Reference is made to Sean Carroll's work, which discusses energy conditions preventing "unphysical" properties, such as energy propagating faster than light, prompting questions about its implications.
  • A suggestion is made to review different energy conditions in relativity, particularly the dominant energy condition, which relates to the stress-energy tensor and energy flow.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relationship between general relativity and the speed of light, as well as the creation of energy from empty space. No consensus is reached on these topics, and multiple competing interpretations remain.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the need for precise definitions regarding key terms, such as "exceeding the speed of light" and "no energy created from empty space." The discussion also touches on the complexities of energy conservation in general relativity, particularly in cosmological contexts.

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Is the inability to exceed the speed of light a consequence of general relativity?
Is the fact that no energy is created from empty space a consequence of general relativity?
Or are they both constructions deriving from the energy conditions imposed to have solutions to Einstein's equations that are compatible with observations?
 
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accdd said:
Is the inability to exceed the speed of light a consequence of general relativity?
You need to define what you mean by "exceeding the speed of light".
accdd said:
Is the fact that no energy is created from empty space a consequence of general relativity?
You need to define what you mean by "no energy is created from empty space".
 
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Locally, nothing can exceed the speed of light.
If I take a small volume I don't expect it to generate stuff out of a vacuum.
 
accdd said:
Locally, nothing can exceed the speed of light.
This in essence follows from 4-momentum being non-spacelike.

accdd said:
If I take a small volume I don't expect it to generate stuff out of a vacuum.
This, in the form ##\nabla_\mu T^{\mu\nu}## is a direct consequence of varying the Einstein-Hilbert action with an additional term to describe the matter fields (and thereby generating the stress-energy tensor). The Einstein field equations resulting from varying the Einstein-Hilbert action are on the form ##G_{\mu\nu} = C T_{\mu\nu}##, where ##C## is a constant and the divergence of the Einstein tensor ##G_{\mu\nu}## is equal to zero.

However, "global" energy is generally not conserved in general relativity as demonstrated, e.g., by FLRW cosmologies.
 
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Sean Carroll in Spacetime and Geometry writes (4.6, last section):
[Energy conditions ... serve to prevent other properties that we think of as "unphysical", such as energy propagating faster than the speed of light...]
What does this means?
 
I suggest looking at the basic descriptions of different energy conditions in relativity. They are all concerned with the stress-energy tensor and are at varying degrees of strictness. For example, look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_condition under "Mathematical statement".

The statement that relates to the flow of energy is the dominant energy condition which relates to ##T_{ab} Y^b## where ##Y## is a time- or light-like vector field. The resulting 4-vector describes energy density and flow.
 
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