Energy splitting in hyperfine structure

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The discussion focuses on calculating the hyperfine structure of an energy level with J=11/2, which has six sub-levels with specific energy values. The main question revolves around determining the total angular momentum I and the corresponding values of F for each sub-level. The user attempts to apply ratios of energy differences to deduce F values but encounters confusion regarding the correct fractions and their implications for F_0. They express uncertainty about their calculations and whether the approximations of the energy ratios are accurate, indicating a need for clarification on the method used in the example. The conversation highlights the complexities of applying energy splitting rules in hyperfine structures.
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Homework Statement


I've been given the worked answer to a very similar question, but there's a step I don't understand so I can't apply it. My question asks:
An energy level with ##J=\frac{11}{2}## has six hyperfine sub-levels with these relative energies:
0, 2.51, 4.71, 6.59, 8.16, 9.41 (GHz)
What is the value of I? Show the spacing obeys the interval rule and determine the value of F for each sub-level.

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So based on this example question I have, start from the fact that ##F = |I-J|...(I+J)##, integer steps, and label the lowest sub-level as ##F_0 = |I-\frac{11}{2}|##. That means I have energy levels from ##F_0## to ##F_0 +5##. Then I can make a table:
##
\begin{array}{|c|c|}
\hline
F & \Delta E_F -\Delta E_{F-1}\\ \hline
F_0 +5 & 1.25 \\ \hline
F_0 + 4 & 1.57 \\ \hline
F_0 + 3 & 1.88 \\ \hline
F_0 + 2 & 2.2 \\ \hline
F_0 + 1 & 2.51 \\ \hline
\end{array}##
Found by referring back to the listed energy levels, so ##F_0 + 5 = 9.41 - 8.16## and so on. Then take ratios of energy splittings, and here's what I don't understand. From
##\frac{F_0+5}{F_0 + 4} = \frac{1.25}{1.57}##, a value for ##F_0 +5## is deduced.

In the example it states
##\frac{F_0 +2}{F_0 +1} = \frac{202}{151}## therefore ##F_0+1 = 3##. How did they work that out? They have ##F_0 = |I - \frac{3}{2}|## and the energy level ##F_0## is at ##151##MeV. Don't understand that step. Thanks for any help!
 
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Kara386 said:
In the example it states
##\frac{F_0 +2}{F_0 +1} = \frac{202}{151}## therefore ##F_0+1 = 3##. How did they work that out?
By finding a small fraction that fits, in this case ##\frac{202}{151} \approx \frac 4 3##. You can find a similar fraction if you divide 1.57 by 1.25, and note a pattern if you continue with 1.88/1.57 and so on.

151 MeV is way too large for the hyperfine structure.
 
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mfb said:
By finding a small fraction that fits, in this case ##\frac{202}{151} \approx \frac 4 3##. You can find a similar fraction if you divide 1.57 by 1.25, and note a pattern if you continue with 1.88/1.57 and so on.

151 MeV is way too large for the hyperfine structure.
Apologies, I meant MHz! 151MeV would be pretty huge. I don't think I can edit it anymore.
 
mfb said:
By finding a small fraction that fits, in this case ##\frac{202}{151} \approx \frac 4 3##. You can find a similar fraction if you divide 1.57 by 1.25, and note a pattern if you continue with 1.88/1.57 and so on.

151 MeV is way too large for the hyperfine structure.
Well for my question ##\frac{F_0+5}{F_0+4} = \frac{1.25}{1.57} \approx 0.796 \approx \frac{4}{5}## which gives ##F_0 = -1## or ##1##, so I think I'm doing something wrong. And looking at the next fraction,
##\frac{F_0+4}{F_0+3} = \frac{1.57}{1.88} \approx \frac{5}{6}## again gives two different answers for ##F_0## of 1 and 2. What am I doing wrong? Are the fractions I've approximated to incorrect?
 
It has been a long time since I last worked with hyperfine structures, but the series of fractions is so clear that it must be the right approach.
 

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