Engineering Physics seems like a poor choice now

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The discussion centers around the career prospects for students studying Engineering Physics, particularly in the context of seeking employment abroad in the US and Australia. Participants explore the relevance of their degrees, potential job markets, and the necessity of further qualifications such as a PhD.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses concern that Engineering Physics is not well recognized outside of Europe, questioning how to translate their degree into marketable skills.
  • Another participant suggests that if the degree is from the Department of Engineering, it should be emphasized on resumes to enhance marketability.
  • Some participants propose that obtaining certification or licensure as an engineer could improve job prospects.
  • There is a viewpoint that once in the engineering field, opportunities for other engineering jobs may open up, regardless of the specific degree.
  • Concerns are raised about being pigeonholed into specialized roles, making transitions to other fields challenging.
  • One participant notes that job prospects may depend on the specific skills and experiences gained during the degree, particularly in areas like materials science.
  • Another participant mentions that the Bologna process has made the Master of Science degree more widely accepted, potentially easing job searches.
  • There is a claim that in Canada, engineering jobs are in high demand, and companies may hire based on perceived capability rather than strict qualifications.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of concerns and optimism regarding the job market for Engineering Physics graduates. There is no consensus on the best approach to take for job applications or the necessity of further education, indicating a range of competing views.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight varying degrees of recognition for Engineering Physics in different regions, as well as the importance of specific coursework and skills in determining job prospects. The discussion reflects uncertainty about the transition from academia to industry and the impact of specialization on employability.

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Hello everyone! I am currently studying Engineering Phyics at Lund University in Sweden. I have one year left, which will give me a master of science degree with a specialization in simulation and scientific computing.

Thing is, people have always been telling me that Engineering Physics is a great career choice, but now when I look for work abroad (primarily in the US and Australia, because Sweden is fricking cold and I need more sun to live) it seems like engineering physics is an almost unknown discipline outside of Europe. Questions:

What fields do I "translate" my degree into? Since nobody is looking for engineering physics engineers, what jobs do I look at that I have a chance of snatching in front of applicants who actually have the requested degree? Do I need to get a PhD in scientific computing/numerical analysis just to find interesting work? I will be bummed out if that's the case, since I haven't been concentrating on getting good enough grades for PhD studies as I've been picturing myself getting into the job market asap. Also, I am primarily interested in actual engineering jobs, research does not really seem like my cup of tea.

EDIT: thankful for answers, of course!
 
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Is your Engineering Physics major in the department of Engineering or the Department of Physics? If it's in the Department of Engineering, be sure to add that to your resume to make yourself more marketable as an engineer. If there is any way you could get certified/licensed as an engineer, that would also be helpful of course. During interviews for engineering jobs, they will probably question why you picked Engineering Physics over Engineering. You should stress the fact that you want to be an engineer, and the only reason you picked Engineering Physics instead was to get a deeper understanding of the engineering principles, or something like that. It might make you even more marketable than someone who only studied engineering, right? :)

Anyway, I will soon finish my masters degree in a much less marketable field (lol), and I too am going to try to apply for engineering jobs. Don't feel alone or be too hard on yourself. Just try to tailor your resume toward engineering and apply for as many jobs as possible. I've heard that once you get yourself into the field of engineering (regardless of degree), it immediately opens the door to other engineering jobs. Good luck!
 
Bel_Oubli said:
Is your Engineering Physics major in the department of Engineering or the Department of Physics? If it's in the Department of Engineering, be sure to add that to your resume to make yourself more marketable as an engineer. If there is any way you could get certified/licensed as an engineer, that would also be helpful of course. During interviews for engineering jobs, they will probably question why you picked Engineering Physics over Engineering. You should stress the fact that you want to be an engineer, and the only reason you picked Engineering Physics instead was to get a deeper understanding of the engineering principles, or something like that. It might make you even more marketable than someone who only studied engineering, right? :)

Anyway, I will soon finish my masters degree in a much less marketable field (lol), and I too am going to try to apply for engineering jobs. Don't feel alone or be too hard on yourself. Just try to tailor your resume toward engineering and apply for as many jobs as possible. I've heard that once you get yourself into the field of engineering (regardless of degree), it immediately opens the door to other engineering jobs. Good luck!

I don't think so. Even an HVAC engineer has a very hard time transitioning to the related (CFD and all that) world of say, power engineering or aerospace. My cousin has a mechanical engineering degree, worked as an HVAC engineer, laid off, then retooled his skills and got a job in software, now is unemployed for 2 years. Still leeching off his parents. Seems like once you specialize, you get pigeonholed.
 
kisengue said:
Hello everyone! I am currently studying Engineering Phyics at Lund University in Sweden. I have one year left, which will give me a master of science degree with a specialization in simulation and scientific computing.

Thing is, people have always been telling me that Engineering Physics is a great career choice, but now when I look for work abroad (primarily in the US and Australia, because Sweden is fricking cold and I need more sun to live) it seems like engineering physics is an almost unknown discipline outside of Europe. Questions:

What fields do I "translate" my degree into? Since nobody is looking for engineering physics engineers, what jobs do I look at that I have a chance of snatching in front of applicants who actually have the requested degree? Do I need to get a PhD in scientific computing/numerical analysis just to find interesting work? I will be bummed out if that's the case, since I haven't been concentrating on getting good enough grades for PhD studies as I've been picturing myself getting into the job market asap. Also, I am primarily interested in actual engineering jobs, research does not really seem like my cup of tea.

EDIT: thankful for answers, of course!
There are Engineering Physics programs in the US at some high quality schools. Australian programs seems to be either physics or engineering, however, one could look into programs at the Research School of Physics and Engineering, The Australian National University, Canberra.

Engineering physics is a bit of hybrid of engineering and physics. One on instructors in my nuclear engineering program actually had an engineering physics degree.

It's perhaps more like Applied Physics, although apparently some draw a distinction between Appl Phys, Eng. Phys, and Engineering.

Job prospects will depend on one's skills and experience (course work and research) and how they compare to the areas of demand. For example, if one has courses and research in materials science, then one should look for work in those areas. That would apply to jobs in electronics, electronic materials, renewable energy, etc.
 
Thank you both for your answers!

My specialization is scientific computing - I lack quite severely in "hard" engineering skills, except that I'm getting quite good at programming. Not even close to the programming skill of a comp.sci engineer though.
 
I don't think you should have any problems with a degree in engineering physics. First off, it's a Master of Science degree, which is a generally accepted degree, becoming standard now with the Bologna process. Second, in Lund in particular there is a very large selection of topics and courses you can take so your choice here matters more for your skill set than whether you enlisted as physics or comp. sci. in the first place. When applying for jobs you should simply emphasize the courses and the choices you've made that are relevant for that particular job you are applying to.
 
I don't know how true this is in europe, but in Canada, engineering jobs are in very high demand. Very senior positions are being filled by engineers who are not even professional yet (have not worked under a professional engineer for 3 years.) A close friend of mine recently was hired as the lead engineer on a mining project that required 10 years experience and multiple projects completed. He only had 2 years experience and no project management experience. My guess is that if companies believe you can do the job, they will hire you, because they have to.
 

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