Entropy due to this irreversible process

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The discussion focuses on calculating the entropy generated due to irreversibilities in an adiabatic container with water and a propeller. It establishes that the change in internal energy is equal to the work done by the propeller, leading to the relationship dS = dU/T. The participants emphasize that since entropy is a state function, the change in entropy can be determined using a reversible path, allowing for the calculation of heat transfer as dS = δQ_rev/T. The final expression for entropy change is derived as ΔS = mC ln(T_f/T_i), where T_f is the final temperature after work is done on the water. This analysis highlights the importance of reversible processes in thermodynamic calculations.
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Homework Statement
There is an adiabatic container filled with water. The volume of the container is fixed and inside the continer there is a propeller electrically connected to the outside. If the work done by the propeller on the water is ##\delta W_{prop}##, what is the entropy generated due to irreversibilities?
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$$dU=TdS-PdV$$
I think the solution is:
$$dU=\delta W_{prop}$$
$$dU=TdS-PdV$$
$$dV=0$$
then, $$TdS=\delta W_{prop}$$ and so $$dS=dU/T$$
and by the way, it correct to say that, if the transformation between the initial and the final state would happen in a reversible way then the heat transfer could be calculated as
$$dS=\delta Q_{rev} /T$$
$$\delta Q _{rev}=TdS$$
$$\delta Q_{rev}=\delta W_{prop}$$
 

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Simobartz said:
Homework Statement:: There is an adiabatic container filled with water. The volume of the container is fixed and inside the container there is a propeller electrically connected to the outside. If the work done by the propeller on the water is ##\delta W_{prop}##, what is the entropy generated due to irreversibilities?
Relevant Equations:: $$dU=TdS-PdV$$

I think the solution is:
$$dU=\delta W_{prop}$$
$$dU=TdS-PdV$$
$$dV=0$$
then, $$TdS=\delta W_{prop}$$ and so $$dS=dU/T$$
and by the way, it correct to say that, if the transformation between the initial and the final state would happen in a reversible way then the heat transfer could be calculated as
$$dS=\delta Q_{rev} /T$$
$$\delta Q _{rev}=TdS$$
$$\delta Q_{rev}=\delta W_{prop}$$
You have the right idea. Since entropy is a state function, entropy change does not depend on the process in going from the initial state to the final state. So it is a matter of finding a convenient reversible path from initial to final state and calculating ##\Delta S = \int_{i}^{f}\frac{dQ_{rev}}{T}## along that path.

The equivalent reversible path would be heat flow into the water increasing internal energy by an amount equal to the work done.

Since W=Q=mC(Tf-Ti), [where m is the mass of the water and C is its specific heat capacity], ##T_f=T_i+W/mC## and ##dW = dQ = mCdT##.

##\Delta S = \int_{T_i}^{T_i+W/mC}\frac{dQ_{rev}}{T} = \int_{T_i}^{T_i+W/mC}\frac{mCdT}{T} ##
So:
##\Delta S = mC\ln\left(\frac{T_i+W/mC}{T_i}\right)##

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