I Epsilon-Delta definition property.

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he
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definition of the limit of a function is as follows:[5]

Let
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be a function defined on a subset [PLAIN]https://upload.wikimedia.org/math/a/1/b/a1b67abab803e714098f3e69a33900da.png, let
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be a limit point of [PLAIN]https://upload.wikimedia.org/math/f/6/2/f623e75af30e62bbd73d6df5b50bb7b5.png, and let
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be a real number. Then

the function
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has a limit
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at
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is defined to mean

for all [PLAIN]https://upload.wikimedia.org/math/b/0/f/b0f19c5714fe9f9891ed26ff783cf639.png, there exists a https://upload.wikimedia.org/math/1/c/b/1cb24dafc8035d2c720256620066ae73.png such that for all
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in
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that satisfy [PLAIN]https://upload.wikimedia.org/math/6/e/e/6ee6dc9ee03f04da6ff784b6eca416e5.png, the inequality https://upload.wikimedia.org/math/2/c/4/2c412a6f49514db4dbd890537413bcc6.png holds.
.

Taken from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/(ε,_δ)-definition_of_limit

The problem what Iam facing is the statement ," for all
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in
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that satisfy [PLAIN]https://upload.wikimedia.org/math/6/e/e/6ee6dc9ee03f04da6ff784b6eca416e5.png". Though I have understood this statement, this hinders my proving this property of limit

lim f(c+h)=L =lim f(x).
h->0 x->c

I am trying to prove the LHS from the RHS.

We know,

"the function f has a limit L at
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is defined to mean
for every ε>0,there exists a δ>0, sucht that, for all x in D satisfying, o<|x-a|<δ, implies |f(x)-L|<ε.The LHS can be proven from the trivial fact taking
x-c=h.
A question arises to me. How do we know the existence of such an h? Also, for what all h does this inequality o<|h|<δ implies |f(c+h)-L|<ε hold?
 
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You are taking h= x- c so "h goes to 0" is the same as "x goes to c" or |h|&lt; \delta is the same as |c+ h|&lt; \delta. In more detail, if |h|&lt; \delta then -\delta&lt; h&lt; \delta so that -\delta&lt; x- c&lt; \delta and vice-versa.
 
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HallsofIvy said:
|h|&lt; \delta is the same as |c+ h|&lt; \delta.
How is this possible?
 
The fact is that you change variable but the limit remains the same, by assumptions you have ##\lim_{x\rightarrow c} f(x)=L## if you change variable, you can set as example ##x=c+h##, so when ##x\rightarrow c## you have ##h\rightarrow 0## and the limit become:
##\lim_{h\rightarrow 0} f(c+h)=L## ... , such ##h## exists (because the difference ##x-c## always exists and you call it with the letter ##h##), therefore ##0<|h|<\delta ## and from ##\left|f(x)-L\right|<\varepsilon## you have ##\left|f(c+h)-L\right|<\varepsilon## ...

It is only a way to rewrite the limit from the variable ##x## to the new variable ##h##, in fact ##c## is a number always fixed and I suppose finite ...
 
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@Ssnow
You are right. Such an h exists like h=x-c.
But what is the condition 'h' should satisfy? How do convert the statement "for all x satisfying 0<|x-c|<δ" to "for all h satisfying 0<|h|<δ"
Other statements in the epsilon-delta definition make sense except this statement. Can we convert from "all x" to "all h"?
 
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Yes, now you point is ##0## so for all ##h## satisfying ##0<|h-0|<\delta## ...
 
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Alpharup said:
How is this possible?
Oops! I meant to write |h|&lt; \delta is the same as |x- c|&lt; \delta.
 
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Yes, logically it is right. But, i need conversion of statement. I thought of this proof. Please say whether it is right.
All the numbers are real in this discussion.
Because of exsistance property of h for any real numbers x and c, we can write:
For all real x and all real c, there exists an unique(one and only one) h such that h=x-c.
Let us take an x which satisfies 0<|x-c|< δ. Let it be x1. By definition, we have "for all x satisfying the property P". So, we can take an arbitray x =x1 satisying that property.
For this x1 and c, we have an unique h=h1 such that h1=x1-c.
By induction,we can prove that for a xn(satisfying P) and c, we have an unique hn such that hn=xn-c.
x can be x1,x2...xn(which satisfying P)
h can be h1,h2,...hn(which are unique for a given x).
So, by induction we can say, "for every x, we can find, every h."
 
yes, but I think the existence it is clear because ##x,c## exists so also the difference exists in ##\mathbb{R}##. To prove the unicity of ##h## you can procede by contradiction argument. Assume that there are two ##h_{1},h_{2}## such that ##h_{1}=x-c## and ##h_{2}=x-c##, then it is clear that ##h_{1}=h_{2}##, so is unique ...
 
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Good proof of uniqueness theorem...
 
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