Equal Moments at A: Reasoning and Calculation

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Homework Statement



Do the following have equal moments about A?

Diagram of a uniform rod of length L with pivot point A at its left end; a force F acts at the right end, directed down and to the right at 30 degrees below horizontal.


Diagram of a horizontal beam of length L with a pivot point labelled A at its left end, and a force F shown at the right end acting at 30 degrees below the horizontal, pointing down and to the left.


Homework Equations



T=rf

The Attempt at a Solution



Yes because using L*cos(30), they will be the same?


What is your reasoning?
 
NoobeAtPhysics said:
Yes because using L*cos(30), they will be the same?

What is your reasoning?

Your reasoning is incorrect ...

τ = r×F

τ = rFsinθ

or τ = r times (component of force perpendicular to line joining A and point of application of force )

So what is τ ?
 
They both use τ = rFsin30 right? That means they are equal! Right?
 
NoobeAtPhysics said:
They both use τ = rFsin30 right? That means they are equal! Right?
"Use" is a strange word there. "Supply" perhaps. Anyway, you asked whether your reasoning was correct, and Tanya S was right in reply, that your reasoning was incorrect (though you got the right answer).