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The discussion revolves around finding integer solutions to the equation $a^2(b-2)+b^2(a-2)+28=0$. Participants explore various approaches and solutions to this equation, with a focus on the correctness of proposed answers.

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  • Post 1 presents the equation for integer solutions without any initial solutions provided.
  • Post 2 reiterates the equation, suggesting a focus on its integer solutions.
  • Post 3 claims that a participant named Albert has provided a correct final solution, although the details of that solution are not included.
  • Post 4 also acknowledges Albert's participation and correctness but appears to contain incomplete information regarding the solution.
  • Post 5 indicates a correction from a participant who acknowledges a mistake in their previous consideration of cases, specifically regarding the inclusion of a plus-minus sign.
  • Post 6 again thanks Albert for his participation and correctness, but similarly lacks a detailed solution.

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There is some agreement that Albert's solution is correct, but the details of the solutions and the correctness of other participants' contributions remain unclear and contested.

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Some posts contain incomplete solutions or corrections, and there is a lack of clarity regarding the specific integer solutions to the equation.

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Solve the following equation for integer solutions:

$a^2(b-2)+b^2(a-2)+28=0$
 
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anemone said:
Solve the following equation for integer solutions:

$a^2(b-2)+b^2(a-2)+28=0---(A)$
suppose the original equation $A$ can be factorized as $(B)$ or $(C)$
$a^2(b-2)+b^2(a-2)+28=0----(A)\\
(a^2-x)[(b-2)-\dfrac{28}{x}]=0---(B)\\
\therefore x=1,\,\, or\,\, x=4\\
\rightarrow a=\pm 1\,\, or \,\, a=\pm 2--------(1)\\
(a-y)[a(b-2)-\dfrac{28}{y}]=0---(C)\\
\therefore a=y=\pm 1,\pm 2,\pm 4,\pm 7,\pm 14,\pm 28---(2)$
for $a,b\in Z$
check $(1)(2)$
the only solution :$a=2,b=-5$ will satisfy (A)
by symmetry:
$\therefore (a,b)=(2,-5) \,\, or \,\, (a,b)=(-5,2)$
 
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Thanks Albert for participating, and your final solution is correct.

My solution:

$a^2(b-2)+b^2(a-2)+28=0$

$a^2(b-2)+b^2(a-2)+32=4$

$a^2b-2a^2+ab^2-2b^2+32=4$

$ab(a+b)-2(a^2+b^2)+32=4$

$ab(a+b)-2(a+b)^2+4ab+32=4$

$(a+b)(ab-2(a+b))+4(ab+8)=4$

$(a+b)(ab-2(a+b)+8)-8(a+b)+4(ab+8)=4$

$(a+b)(ab-2(a+b)+8)+4(ab-2(a+b)+8)=4$

$(a+b+4)(ab-2(a+b)+8)=4$

$(a+b+4)(ab-2(a+b)+8)=\pm 1(\pm 1)\stackrel{\text{or}}=\pm 2(\pm 2)\stackrel{\text{or}}=\pm 4(\pm 1)\stackrel{\text{or}}=\pm 1(\pm 4)$

Upon checking for all cases, we see that the following two are the only solutions:

$(a,\,b)=(-5,\,2),\,(2,\,-5)$
 
anemone said:
Thanks Albert for participating, and your final solution is correct.

My solution:

$a^2(b-2)+b^2(a-2)+28=0$

$a^2(b-2)+b^2(a-2)+32=4$

$a^2b-2a^2+ab^2-2b^2+32=4$

$ab(a+b)-2(a^2+b^2)+32=4$

$ab(a+b)-2(a+b)^2+4ab+32=4$

$(a+b)(ab-2(a+b))+4(ab+8)=4$

$(a+b)(ab-2(a+b)+8)-8(a+b)+4(ab+8)=4$

$(a+b)(ab-2(a+b)+8)+4(ab-2(a+b)+8)=4$

$(a+b+4)(ab-2(a+b)+8)=4$

$(a+b+4)(ab-2(a+b)+8)=1(1)\stackrel{\text{or}}=2(2)\stackrel{\text{or}}=4(1)\stackrel{\text{or}}=1(4)$

Upon checking for all cases, we see that the following two are the only solutions:

$(a,\,b)=(-5,\,2),\,(2,\,-5)$

above ans is correct nut

you missed out some cases of factors (-ve) * (-ve) in which you could have missed out solution but you did not miss out
 
Ah, my mistake...I in fact took into consideration of all cases, just that I forgot to put the plus minus sign in the post...I just fixed it, thanks!
 
anemone said:
Thanks Albert for participating, and your final solution is correct.

My solution:

$a^2(b-2)+b^2(a-2)+28=0$

$a^2(b-2)+b^2(a-2)+32=4$

$a^2b-2a^2+ab^2-2b^2+32=4$

$ab(a+b)-2(a^2+b^2)+32=4$

$ab(a+b)-2(a+b)^2+4ab+32=4$

$(a+b)(ab-2(a+b))+4(ab+8)=4$

$(a+b)(ab-2(a+b)+8)-8(a+b)+4(ab+8)=4$

$(a+b)(ab-2(a+b)+8)+4(ab-2(a+b)+8)=4$

$(a+b+4)(ab-2(a+b)+8)=4$

$(a+b+4)(ab-2(a+b)+8)=\pm 1(\pm 1)\stackrel{\text{or}}=\pm 2(\pm 2)\stackrel{\text{or}}=\pm 4(\pm 1)\stackrel{\text{or}}=\pm 1(\pm 4)$

Upon checking for all cases, we see that the following two are the only solutions:

$(a,\,b)=(-5,\,2),\,(2,\,-5)$

Sorry that I missed out last time

$\pm1(\pm 1)$ is invalid
 

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