Equations of Motion with non-constant acceleration

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The discussion revolves around the equations of motion for an object experiencing non-constant acceleration due to two forces that are inversely proportional to the square of the distance from a reference point. The original poster is attempting to derive a relationship for the velocity of a spacecraft influenced by gravitational and radiation forces as it moves away from the sun.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants explore the implications of the forces acting on the spacecraft and question the assumptions regarding initial conditions, such as starting velocity and the nature of acceleration. There are discussions about the mathematical formulation of the problem, including the transformation of differential equations and the conservation of energy.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into the mathematical relationships and have pointed out the importance of considering initial conditions. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of the derived equations and the physical interpretations of the results, particularly regarding the spacecraft's trajectory and velocity at various distances from the sun.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the specific scenario of the spacecraft being released at a distance of 1 AU from the sun with zero initial velocity, which raises questions about the nature of the forces and the resulting motion. There is also mention of constraints related to the density of the solar sail and its effectiveness in overcoming gravitational pull.

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Homework Statement



Hi, I'm trying to work out the following equation that I have made for myself, based on the following information:
An object of mass m is traveling from a point r_0. The object has two forces acting on it, both of which are inversely proportional to the square of the distance from r_0.
I know this means that the ratio between the two forces is constant, and I have found the acceleration by using F=ma, with F being the difference between the two forces, divided by r^2.

How do I go about solving this equation for velocity at a certain distance r from r_0?

Homework Equations



I know that (using simplified notation, lumping all constants together) a = (A-B)/mr^2 and that a = dv/dt, so we have a first order constant coefficient differential equation. However, it is the r^2 term that is causing issues, as this means it can't be solved easily.
Am I missing a trick here?


The Attempt at a Solution


The reason why I wish to solve this is that this equation models the acceleration of a spaceship whose only forces acting upon it are the gravitational pull of the sun, and the radiation force acting on the sails of the spaceship. Both forces decrease like 1/r^2 as the ship moves away from the sun, hence the above equations. I am trying to find at what distance from the sun a particular velocity is reached, if at all. (As I imagine that if the difference between the two forces is not large enough, then this speed will never be attained)
As an aside, it is interesting to note that even if the radiation force is only slightly larger than gravity, then the spacecraft will eventually leave the solar system, and the sun's gravitational effect. But it will stop accelerating at some point, or the acceleration will become so small as to be negligable. But there have been no forces to slow it down, so it will be traveling at a great speed.
 
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this isn't really homework, is it? Anyway, if you look at the form of your equation, what is the same and what has changed from the case when the object was acted on by only gravity?
 
You may also want to consider, that a solar sail for a "real" spacecraft really works best when it generates a force that points more or less in the direction of orbital travel around the sun, that is, a direction perpendicular to the direction towards the sun. By doing so, the "solar sail force" is not wasted against gravity but goes undiminished into raising the spacecraft s orbital energy and hence its distance from the sun.

If you only consider gravity and photon pressure, a quick back-of-the-envelope calculation gives that a perfectly reflecting solar sail that by some means have been brought to just "hang" a certain distance from the sun (that is, the sail has no transverse speed relative to the sun) will only accelerate straight out from the sun (that is, photon pressure will exceed gravitation) if the density of the sail is below around 1.5 g/m2 (1.5 gram per square meter). A density above that and gravity will be stronger than photon pressure and the sail would fall towards the sun.
 
It sort of is a coursework question, BruceW.
Anyway, I agree with you, Filip on the value of 1.5g/m^2 (unless the area of the sail is enormous, in which case it can, in theory, take any value).
This is where I am confused, as we are supposed to answer the question:

"...the spacecraft is realeased at a distance from the sun of 1AU with zero starting velocity. Determine the relations between it's total mass, sail area, and sail density for it to escape the sun's gravitational pull."

Would you take this to mean that it has no tangential velocity, therefore all acceleration would happen radially, as you say in the latter half of your post? If so, then I think I have answered the question...if not, then I'm going to have to have a drastic rethink.
Thanks.
 
You need the speed at a given distance from sun, that is the function v(r)

Replace dv/dt with dv/dr dr/dt = dv/dr v. You get the separable equation
v dv/dr=K/r^2. (K=(A-B)/m).

This is the same as using conservation of energy.

ehild
 
Great. Thanks ehild. This then means that the velocity at any distance r from the sun of a spacecraft traveling radially outward, acted upon by gravity and radiation pressure is given by
v=√(2(B-A)/rm)

But this implies that for very large r, then the velocity will be small. But if it has been accelerating all that time, it will have accumulated a very large velocity...?
 
tomtom6090 said:
Great. Thanks ehild. This then means that the velocity at any distance r from the sun of a spacecraft traveling radially outward, acted upon by gravity and radiation pressure is given by
v=√(2(B-A)/rm)

Do not forget the integration constant. The object starts from rest, but from a certain distance r0 from the sun, not from the centre! Also take care of the sign when you integrate 1/r^2. ehild
 
tomtom6090 said:
...the spacecraft is realeased at a distance from the sun of 1AU with zero starting velocity. Determine the relations between it's total mass, sail area, and sail density for it to escape the sun's gravitational pull.

Would you take this to mean that it has no tangential velocity, therefore all acceleration would happen radially, as you say in the latter half of your post? If so, then I think I have answered the question...if not, then I'm going to have to have a drastic rethink.

Yes, from your quote of the question it does seems imply a zero tangential speed in which case the the relationship between the mentioned measures can easily be derived (without integration). You only need to integrate if you need speed or radial position as a function of time.
 

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