Equilibrio of a sparingly soluble ionic compound

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The discussion revolves around the solubility equilibrium of a sparingly soluble ionic compound, specifically focusing on the solubility of lead(II) sulfate (PbSO4) and the calculations related to its concentration in solution. Participants are examining the discrepancies in calculated solubility values and the interpretation of given answers.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the provided concentration of Pb^2+ ions, suggesting that the answer of 8.4x10^-5 molL^-1 may be incorrect and relates to the division of sulfate ion concentration from Ag2SO4.
  • Another participant expresses confusion over the calculation process and the interpretation of the answer, indicating a potential misunderstanding of the solubility concept.
  • A participant presents their own calculated value of 4.33 x 10^-5 molL^-1, which differs from the given answer, prompting further inquiry into the correct approach.
  • There is a suggestion that the provided answer may be incorrect, with one participant affirming that their approach aligns with the questioned answer.
  • Another participant raises the issue of varying Ksp values for PbSO4 from different sources, which may affect the calculations being discussed.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not appear to reach a consensus on the correctness of the provided answer or the method used to arrive at it. Multiple competing views remain regarding the interpretation of the solubility and the calculations involved.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved issues regarding the assumptions made in the calculations, particularly concerning the Ksp values used and the interpretation of the sulfate ion concentration from Ag2SO4.

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Homework Statement
Calculate the concentration of the first cation until second cation just starts to precipitate as sulfate
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I got the first question correct but I don’t understand the answer given for second question which is c (Pb^2+) = 8.4x10^-5 molL ^-1. It divided the concentrate for sulphate ion of Ag2SO4 into 2 , but it is the solubility right ?
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This is very difficult to read :mad:

daphnelee-mh said:
It divided the concentrate for sulphate ion of Ag2SO4 into 2

As far as I can tell - it didn't.
 
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My answer is 4.33 x 10^-5, but answer given is 8.4x10^-5, how can I get it?
 
Next time please type the answer (takes less time than writing and taking pictures).

As far as I can tell answer given is wrong, your approach looks OK.
 
Sorry, my computer have problems that time, I can just upload using phone. Therefore, is it the given answer is wrong?
 
Looks like, I got the same answer you did.
 
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Were you given the Ksp for PbSO4?
Wikipedia has it at 2.13X10^-8 (20C), the CRC has it at 1.06X10^-8 (18C) and you are using 1.3X10^-8!
 

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